How Old is the CMB? Big Bang Cool Down Explained

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In summary: Infinite or not, rapid expansion is very much required for light that starts out around 48 million light years away to take 13.7 billion light years to get here.
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In other words, when did the big bang cool down to 3 degrees? Like 13.7 billion years ago, or in recent millenia? If it only cooled that much near current time - which is what I understood - then the CMB must be "coming from" the space right around the Milky way - which is not what I understood.
 
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The CMB is an image of the universe when it was only about 350,000 years old - we can date this reasonably accurately because we know hoe long it would take for the initial conditions to cool to it's very well known temperature.

So essentially the age of the universe old.
 
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The CMB reflects the current temperature of the universe, around 3K. But it was created, as mgb says, much earlier when the universe was much hotter. The CMB photons have been moving through the universe since that time, and they have been cooling with the expansion. The CMB photons that we are receiving today on Earth originated billions of light years away.
 
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Just to clarify, the CMB has never stopped cooling down but follows a predictable curve...which is of use in calculating its age.
 
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HarryWertM said:
In other words, when did the big bang cool down to 3 degrees? Like 13.7 billion years ago, or in recent millenia? If it only cooled that much near current time - which is what I understood - then the CMB must be "coming from" the space right around the Milky way - which is not what I understood.
The CMB was emitted when our universe condensed from a plasma to a gas. This phase change happens at around 3000K (about 5000 degrees Fahrenheit). Since then, our universe has expanded around a thousandfold, which in turn has cooled the CMB by a factor of about a thousand, leading to the current temperature of around 3K.

And as for where the CMB was emitted, it was emitted everywhere. It's just that the part of it that we see is the part that has had photons in flight for the last 13.7 billion years, which turns out to be from a part of the universe that was, at the time, around 45 million light years away or so. The rapid early expansion of our universe has caused the light to take this long for it to reach us.
 
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Chalnoth said:
The rapid early expansion of our universe has caused the light to take this long for it to reach us.
Or not. If the universe is infinite, no rapid early expansion is necessary.
 
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bapowell said:
Or not. If the universe is infinite, no rapid early expansion is necessary.
Infinite or not, rapid expansion is very much required for light that starts out around 48 million light years away to take 13.7 billion light years to get here.
 

Related to How Old is the CMB? Big Bang Cool Down Explained

1. How do we know the age of the CMB?

Scientists use a variety of methods to determine the age of the CMB (Cosmic Microwave Background). One way is by measuring the radiation from the CMB and determining its temperature. The temperature of the CMB decreases over time, so by calculating its current temperature, we can estimate its age. This method has been used to determine that the CMB is approximately 13.8 billion years old.

2. What is the relationship between the CMB and the Big Bang?

The CMB is a remnant of the Big Bang, which is the event that is believed to have created the universe. As the universe expanded and cooled down after the Big Bang, the leftover radiation from this event became the CMB. Therefore, the age of the CMB is closely linked to the age of the universe and the time since the Big Bang.

3. How did the CMB cool down after the Big Bang?

After the Big Bang, the universe was extremely hot and dense, with temperatures reaching billions of degrees. As the universe expanded, the temperature gradually decreased. At around 400,000 years after the Big Bang, the temperature had cooled enough for atoms to form, which allowed the radiation from the Big Bang to travel freely and become the CMB. Since then, the CMB has continued to cool down due to the expansion of the universe.

4. What evidence supports the theory of the Big Bang and the age of the CMB?

There is a wealth of evidence that supports the theory of the Big Bang and the age of the CMB. One key piece of evidence is the redshift of galaxies, which can be observed in the light spectrum and indicates that the universe is expanding. Other evidence includes the abundance of light elements in the universe, the large-scale structure of the universe, and the uniformity of the CMB temperature in all directions.

5. Could the CMB have a different age than the universe?

No, the CMB and the age of the universe are closely related and cannot have different ages. The CMB is the oldest light in the universe, and its age corresponds to the time since the Big Bang. If the CMB had a different age, it would mean that the universe would have had to exist before the Big Bang, which goes against current scientific understanding.

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