Is the closure of a set the same as its smallest closed set containing it?

In summary, the conversation discusses the definitions of boundary and closure of a set, and how they are equivalent. It also provides a proof for this equivalence by defining the closure and boundary in two different ways.
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Bipolarity
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My first analysis/topology text defined the boundary of a set S as the set of all points whose neighborhoods had some point in the set S and some point outside the set S. It also defined the closure of a set S the union of S and its boundary.

Using this, we can prove that the closure of S is the smallest closed set containing S. We can also prove that the boundary of S is the intersection of the closure of S and the closure of the complement of S.

I was wondering, if we define the closure of S to be the smallest closed set containing S, and the boundary of S to be the intersection of the closure of S and the closure of the complement of S, will we have the machinery necessary to work backwards and prove the first two definitions, i.e. are the two definitions of boundary/closure equivalent?

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Yes, they are! And your proof will show it!

Given a subset [itex]S[/itex] of your space [itex]X[/itex]...
- Let [itex]\partial S=\{x\in X: \enspace \text{ for any neighborhood } N \text{ of } x, \enspace N\cap S\neq\emptyset \text{ and } N\cap (X\setminus S)\neq\emptyset \}[/itex].
- Let [itex]\bar S = S \cup \partial S[/itex].
- Let [itex]\tilde S[/itex] be the smallest closed set containing [itex]S[/itex]. (You have to prove that there is such a set. But this is easy; it's just the intersection of every closed set containing [itex]S[/itex].)

Notice that I haven't used the words "closure" or "boundary" anywhere above.

It sounds like you know how to prove that [itex]\bar S = \tilde S[/itex] and [itex]\partial S = \bar S \cap \overline{X\setminus S}[/itex].

Having shown that, you can define:
- The closure of [itex]S[/itex] (denoted [itex]cl(S)[/itex]) is either [itex]\bar S[/itex] or [itex]\tilde S[/itex], whichever definition you like. [We now know they're equivalent.]
- The boundary of [itex]S[/itex] is either [itex]\partial S[/itex] or [itex]cl(S)\cap cl(X\setminus S)[/itex], whichever definition you like. [We now know they're equivalent.]
 

What is boundary and closure?

Boundary and closure is a concept in science that refers to the physical or conceptual limits or borders of a system or process. It can also refer to the act of enclosing or sealing off a system or process.

Why is boundary and closure important in scientific research?

Boundary and closure is important in scientific research because it helps to define the scope and limits of a study or experiment. It also helps to ensure that the results are accurate and not influenced by external factors.

How does boundary and closure affect the reliability of scientific data?

Boundary and closure directly impacts the reliability of scientific data as it helps to control for external factors that may affect the results. By setting clear boundaries and closing off the system or process, scientists can be confident that their data is accurate and not influenced by outside variables.

What are some common methods used to establish boundary and closure in scientific research?

Some common methods used to establish boundary and closure in scientific research include using control groups, implementing strict protocols and procedures, and carefully selecting and isolating study subjects.

How does boundary and closure relate to the scientific method?

Boundary and closure is an important aspect of the scientific method as it helps to ensure that experiments are conducted in a controlled and systematic manner. By clearly defining boundaries and closing off the system, scientists can follow the steps of the scientific method and produce reliable and valid results.

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