Quantum Tunneling in the Sun and Conservation of Energy

In summary, the observed power output of the Sun can be explained by taking into account the quantum effects of the protons' wave function, which allows them to fuse even if they do not overcome the electrostatic barrier. This process does not violate the conservation of energy, as the net gain is still the same in both classical and quantum mechanics. However, in quantum mechanics, protons do not need to overcome the electrostatic barrier in order to fuse, as they can "tunnel through."
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Hi,

In my textbook it says that if you consider the electrostatic repulsive barrier that protons in the Sun need to overcome in order to get into the range of the strong nuclear force to fuse together then it fails to fully account for the measured power output of the Sun.

It says that the observed power output of the Sun can be explained if you take into account the QM effects of the protons wave function. Some protons that don't quite overcome the electrostatic barrier and are not in range for the strong nuclear force can still fuse because their wavefunction has a non-zero probability of being within range of the strong nuclear force i.e. quantum tunnelling.

I am fine with this but I just wondered how energy is conserved. Work needs to be done in order to overcome the electrostatic repulsive force (force x distance). So if protons can fuse at shorter distances does this not violate conservation of energy in some way? Surely energy still has to be conserved and I don't see how it can be.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Jimmy87 said:
Work needs to be done in order to overcome the electrostatic repulsive force (force x distance).
This is Newtonian mechanics. Interactions between particles in QM take place according to Quantum Electrodynamics and Quantum Chromodynamics. These dynamics are not based on Newton's laws, from which ##W = Fd## is derived.
 
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Classically, the process would look like this:

The protons start with a given energy from thermal motion. Something like 1 MeV of that energy is converted to potential energy as they approach each other. From there on they fuse, releasing 2.5 MeV. Net gain: 1.5 MeV. Classically you need an initial energy of at least 1 MeV. In quantum mechanics you do not. The net gain is still the same, however - 1.5 MeV. You just don't have this big potential hill to overcome as protons can "tunnel through".
 
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1. What is quantum tunneling in the sun?

Quantum tunneling in the sun is a phenomenon in which particles with insufficient energy to overcome a potential barrier can still pass through it. This occurs due to the probabilistic nature of quantum mechanics, where particles can exist in multiple states at once.

2. How does quantum tunneling contribute to energy conservation in the sun?

In the sun, quantum tunneling allows particles to overcome potential barriers and fuse together, releasing large amounts of energy in the form of sunlight. This process helps to maintain the sun's energy output and contributes to the overall conservation of energy in the universe.

3. Can quantum tunneling explain the sun's high temperatures?

While quantum tunneling plays a role in the sun's energy production, it is not the sole factor contributing to its high temperatures. Other processes, such as nuclear fusion and gravitational compression, also play important roles in maintaining the sun's high temperatures.

4. How does the principle of energy conservation apply to quantum tunneling in the sun?

The principle of energy conservation states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed from one form to another. In the case of quantum tunneling in the sun, the potential energy of particles is converted into kinetic energy as they pass through potential barriers, contributing to the overall energy balance in the sun.

5. Is quantum tunneling a common occurrence in the sun?

Yes, quantum tunneling is a common occurrence in the sun and is a crucial process in maintaining its energy output. Without quantum tunneling, the sun would not be able to sustain its high temperatures and would eventually burn out.

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