Question about Damped Oscillations

In each case the solution is given by a linear combination of exponentials ##\exp(\pm \gamma t)## with ##\gamma^2=(\omega^2-\delta^2)##. If you draw the complex graph of ##\gamma## in the complex plane, you see that for ##\omega>\delta>0## it lies on the imaginary axis, for ##\omega=\delta>0## it lies on the real axis, and for ##\delta>\omega>0## it lies on the negative real axis. This is not a coincidence: For ##\omega>\delta>0## the oscillations are described by a combination of two exponentials with a conjugate pair of imaginary exponents, which gives
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Why are damped oscillation in many books written with equation
[tex]\ddot{x}+2\delta \dot{x}+\omega^2 x=0[/tex]
##\delta## and ##\omega^2## are constants. Why ##2 \delta## many authors write in equation?
 
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LagrangeEuler said:
Why are damped oscillation in many books written with equation
[tex]\ddot{x}+2\delta \dot{x}+\omega^2 x=0[/tex]
##\delta## and ##\omega^2## are constants. Why ##2 \delta## many authors write in equation?

Because the solution is a linear combination of exponentials [itex]e^{kt}[/itex] where [tex]
k^2 + 2\delta k + \omega^2 = (k + \delta)^2 + \omega^2 - \delta^2 = 0.[/tex]
 
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LagrangeEuler said:
Why 2δ many authors write in equation?
it becomes less messy.

The solutions to the characteristic equation ##r^2 + 2\delta r + \omega^2 = 0## becomes ##r = -\delta \pm \sqrt{\delta^2 - \omega^2}##

With characteristic equation ##r^2 + \delta r + \omega^2 = 0## solutions becomes ##r = -\dfrac{\delta}{2} \pm \sqrt{\dfrac{\delta^2}{4} - \omega^2}##
 
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As others have said, it's just a way of simplifying notation.

However, in my experience, this is a less common way to simplify the problem/solution. There are two very common canonical forms for this problem as below:

1) Using the resonant (natural) frequency ##\omega_o## and the damping coefficient ##\xi##. So,
$$ \ddot{x}+2\xi \omega_o \dot{x}+\omega_o^2 x=0 $$

2) Using the resonant (natural) frequency ##\omega_o## and the quality factor ##Q##. So,
$$ \ddot{x}+\frac{1}{Q} \omega_o \dot{x}+\omega_o^2 x=0 $$

I suspect that this ##\delta## version is used because when roots of the characteristic equation are complex ##\delta## is the real part as shown previously. Which is also simple. They are all simple from some viewpoint. Usually that viewpoint is about a simple form of the solution, not so much what the original DE looks like.

The bigger point is that these are all just different representations of the same system. It's a personal choice, you could invent your own. Or, you may someday have to decipher someone else's version (like I just had to do with ##\delta##).

Wikipedia has a good page about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damping

edit: for what it's worth, I like this form: ##\frac{\ddot{x}}{\omega_o^2}+\frac{1}{Q \omega_o} \dot{x}+x=0##
 
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On a lighter note, you can tell the discipline of the writer by their notation (OK, only slightly better than chance).

- Mechanical engineers like ##\xi##. I can't fathom why. Since it's not nearly as pretty as...

- Q. Which means you're probably an EE. Although you would grudgingly acknowledge that they are really the same thing.

- If you use ##\xi## or Q but they are an element of a matrix in equations with only one derivative, then you are definitely, absolutely, a controls engineer. You worship the word "state space" as if it was Yahweh.

- If your equations are full of n, (n-1), and (n-2), but no derivatives, then you are a DSP control guy. You don't need ##\xi## or Q, everything is ##a_n##, ##a_{n-1}## and such. Half of you thought I should have said k, (k-1), and (k-2). Half of you have never touched the hardware you are controlling with your code. Time is just a constant called ##T##, which appears everywhere but is ignored.

- ##\delta##: probably a mathematician. Since you never see it in an engineering book.

- If an engineer doesn't even recognize it's a SHO equation, like this, then you are definitely a physicist. Although you use ALL of the other notations too, except the discrete time stuff.

- If you are a biologist, geologist, or chemist, then you don't care and aren't sure where your textbook is with this material. But you know you have it, you knew it, and could relearn it if you can't find a friend to do it for you.

But... It's all the same thing.
 
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It's just convenience. If you write the equation of motion as
$$\ddot{x}+2 \delta \dot{x}+\omega^2 x=0, \qquad (1)$$
you can first make your life easier by substituting
$$x(t)=\exp(-\delta t) y(t),$$
because then
$$\dot{x}(t) = \exp(-\delta t) [-\delta y(t) + \dot{y}(t)],$$
$$\ddot{x}(t)=\exp(-\delta t) [\delta^2 y(t) -2 \delta \dot{y}(t)+\ddot{y}(t)].$$
Plugging this into (1) you get
$$\exp(-\delta t)[\delta^2 y(t)-2 \delta \dot{y}(t) + \ddot{y}(t)+2 \delta \dot{y}(t)-2\delta^2 y(t) + \omega^2 y(t)] = \exp(-\delta t)[\ddot{y}(t)+(\omega^2-\delta^2) y(t)]=0.$$
This means that
$$\ddot{y}(t)+(\omega^2-\delta^2) y(t)=0,$$
which is easily solved for the three cases ##\omega>\delta>0## ("underdamping"), ##\omega=\delta>0## ("critical damping"), and ##\delta>\omega>0## ("overdamping").
 
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1. What is a damped oscillation?

A damped oscillation is a type of motion where a system, such as a pendulum or spring, experiences a decrease in amplitude over time due to the presence of a dissipative force, such as friction or air resistance.

2. How does damping affect the behavior of an oscillating system?

Damping affects the behavior of an oscillating system by causing the amplitude of the oscillations to decrease over time. This means that the oscillations will eventually come to a stop, rather than continuing indefinitely as in an undamped system.

3. What are the different types of damping?

There are three main types of damping: underdamping, where the system returns to its equilibrium position after oscillating; critical damping, where the system returns to its equilibrium position as quickly as possible without oscillating; and overdamping, where the system returns to its equilibrium position slowly without oscillating.

4. What factors can affect the amount of damping in a system?

The amount of damping in a system can be affected by factors such as the viscosity of the medium the system is moving through, the material properties of the system, and any external forces acting on the system.

5. How can damping be beneficial in certain applications?

Damping can be beneficial in certain applications by reducing the amplitude of oscillations, which can help to stabilize the system and prevent it from becoming too chaotic. Damping is also important in reducing the amount of energy lost in a system, which can help to improve efficiency.

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