Triple integral to find volume of ice cream cone

In summary, the volume of the ice cream cone defined by the given parameters can be found using triple integrals in spherical coordinates. The equation for the sphere in spherical coordinates is \rho=\sqrt{2}, the central angle of the cone can be found to be 0\leq\phi\leq\pi/4, and the limits for \theta are 0\leq\theta\leq2\pi. The spherical element of volume, dV, is given by dV = \rho^2\sin(\phi)d\rho d\phi d\theta. By integrating 1 over the limits of the cone, the volume can be calculated to be (2^{\frac 3 2})
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Homework Statement


Use a triple integral in rectangular coordinates to find the volume of the ice cream cone defined as follows

The region R in the xy-plane is the circle of radius 1 with center at the origin.
The sides of the cone are defined by the function z= [tex]\sqrt{x^2+y&2}[/tex]
The top of the cone is a portion of the sphere with radius [tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex] and center at the origin.
Repeat using triple integrals in cylindrical and spherical coordinates

Homework Equations


The problem with a picture can be found here http://www.docbenton.com/MAT240-56707/maple/MAPLE-6.pdf


The Attempt at a Solution



I need some help in starting. I am not sure how to set up the triple integral. I really need the practice on this problem.
 
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Some questions to get you started on spherical first since that is the most natural for this problem. Do you see why?

1. What is the equation of the sphere in spherical coordinates.
2. Can you figure out the central angle of the cone? This has to do with the limits for [itex]\phi[/itex]
3. Do you know the spherical element of volume dV?
4. Can you see what the limits for [itex]\rho[/itex] would be? Ditto [itex]\phi[/itex] and [itex]\theta[/itex]?

Show us which of these you do/don't know and we can go from there.
 
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Hi. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

1. What is the equation of the sphere in spherical coordinates? [tex]\rho[/tex]=[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex]

2.Can you figure out the central angle of the cone? I'm a little confused. What is the "central angle of the cone"? I believe the limits of [tex]\phi[/tex] are 0[tex]\leq[/tex][tex]\phi\leq[/tex][tex]\pi[/tex]/4

3. Do you know the spherical element of volume dV? I do not.

4. Can you see what the limits for rho would be? Ditto for phi and theta? The limit for theta should be 0[tex]\leq[/tex][tex]\theta[/tex][tex]\leq[/tex]2[tex]\pi[/tex]

Sorry for the mix of latex and text. I am running out of time at the moment. I am not sure of the answer to question 3. Are you talking about the volume of sphere being 4/3[tex]\pi[/tex]r[tex]^{2}[/tex]?
 
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PhysicsMark said:
Hi. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

1. What is the equation of the sphere in spherical coordinates? [tex]\rho[/tex]=[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex]

Correct.
2.Can you figure out the central angle of the cone? I'm a little confused. What is the "central angle of the cone"? I believe the limits of [tex]\phi[/tex] are 0[tex]\leq[/tex][tex]\phi\leq[/tex][tex]\pi[/tex]/4

Yes, I meant the angle from the vertical axis to the slant side. You have the [itex]\phi[/itex] limits correct.
3. Do you know the spherical element of volume dV? I do not.
Well, of course you need to know dV. It should be in your book:
[tex]dV = \rho^2\sin(\phi)d\rho d\phi d\theta[/tex]

4. Can you see what the limits for rho would be? Ditto for phi and theta? The limit for theta should be 0[tex]\leq[/tex][tex]\theta[/tex][tex]\leq[/tex]2[tex]\pi[/tex]

Sorry for the mix of latex and text. I am running out of time at the moment. I am not sure of the answer to question 3. Are you talking about the volume of sphere being 4/3[tex]\pi[/tex]r[tex]^{2}[/tex]?

No, we aren't doing the volume of a sphere. Since [itex]\rho[/itex] is going to go from 0 to [itex]\sqrt 2[/itex] and you know the other limits and dV now, just put the proper limits on

[tex]V = \int\int\int 1\ dV [/tex]

and integrate.
 
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Wow, thank you. I have another question. Am I integrating "1" or am I integrating [tex]\rho^{2}[/tex]sin([tex]\phi[/tex]).

Its 1 isn't it? Nevermind, I think that is obvious. I'm going to post this question just in case. Thanks again for all the help.
 
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PhysicsMark said:
Wow, thank you. I have another question. Am I integrating "1" or am I integrating [tex]\rho^{2}[/tex]sin([tex]\phi[/tex]).

Its 1 isn't it? Nevermind, I think that is obvious. I'm going to post this question just in case. Thanks again for all the help.

Remember that in spherical coordinates:

[tex]
dV = \rho^2\sin(\phi)d\rho d\phi d\theta
[/tex]

The fact that you are integrating 1 dV is what gives you the volume. If you were, for example, integrating a mass density [itex]\int\int\int_V\delta(x,y,z)\ dV[/itex] you would be calculating the total mass. The [itex]\rho^2\sin(\phi)[/itex] is built into the dV.
 
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I have worked out the problem and gotten a solution. I have the volume as 1.0017 units. Can anyone confirm this?


My last step looked like this:

(2/3)^(3/2) [tex]\int-cos(\pi/4)+1[/tex] d[tex]\theta[/tex]

as theta goes from 0 to 2[tex]\pi[/tex]
 
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PhysicsMark said:
I have worked out the problem and gotten a solution. I have the volume as 1.0017 units. Can anyone confirm this?


My last step looked like this:

(2/3)^(3/2) [tex]\int-cos(\pi/4)+1[/tex] d[tex]\theta[/tex]

as theta goes from 0 to 2[tex]\pi[/tex]

That first factor should be:
[tex]\frac {2^{\frac 3 2}}{3}[/tex]
The rest looks right. If you were in my class I would have told you to give the answer in exact radical form, not a decimal.
 

1. What is a triple integral?

A triple integral is an extension of the concept of a regular integral to three-dimensional space. It is used to find the volume of a three-dimensional object by integrating over three variables.

2. How is a triple integral used to find the volume of an ice cream cone?

A triple integral is used to find the volume of an ice cream cone by integrating over the three dimensions of the cone - height, radius, and angle. This allows us to calculate the volume of the entire cone, including the curved shape of the ice cream scoop on top.

3. What are the limits of integration for a triple integral to find the volume of an ice cream cone?

The limits of integration for a triple integral to find the volume of an ice cream cone will depend on the specific dimensions and shape of the cone. Generally, the limits will be determined by the height and radius of the cone, as well as any angles that may affect its shape.

4. Can a triple integral be used to find the volume of any three-dimensional object?

Yes, a triple integral can be used to find the volume of any three-dimensional object, as long as the shape and dimensions of the object can be described using three variables. This includes objects with irregular shapes, such as an ice cream cone.

5. Are there any alternative methods for finding the volume of an ice cream cone besides using a triple integral?

Yes, there are other methods for finding the volume of an ice cream cone. One common method is to use the formula for the volume of a cone, V = (1/3)πr^2h, where r is the radius of the base and h is the height of the cone. However, this method does not account for the curved shape of the ice cream scoop on top, so a triple integral may provide a more accurate measurement.

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