Volume integral, how do I find the limits for my integral?

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Hi, does anyone know how to find the integral that needs to be evaluated here? I can't understand how to find it from the region

edit: Oh and this is from here, not a take home test
http://www.maths.ox.ac.uk/courses/course/12489/material
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First off I would square everything to obtain:

[tex]
a^{2}\leqslant yz\leqslant b^{2},\quad a^{2}\leqslant xy\leqslant b^{2},\quad a^{2}\leqslant xz\leqslant b^{2}
[/tex]

Then I would take the first away from the second to obtain:

[tex]
0\leqslant y(x-z)\leqslant 0
[/tex]

Now what does this say?
 
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So does this imply that z<x<z, therefore x=z?
 
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I tried the substitution of X=yz, Y=xy, Z=xz
I came out with an answer, but it was extremely messy, due to the Jacobian
 
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Well it says that as y>0 then x=z, and you have [tex]a\leqslant x\leqslant b[/tex]
 
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ok.. so considering limits for dx,dy,dz

z is between a and b
y is between a^2/z and b^2/z
but what could be do for x?
 
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hunt_mat said:
First off I would square everything to obtain:

[tex]
a^{2}\leqslant yz\leqslant b^{2},\quad a^{2}\leqslant xy\leqslant b^{2},\quad a^{2}\leqslant xz\leqslant b^{2}
[/tex]

Then I would take the first away from the second to obtain:

[tex]
0\leqslant y(x-z)\leqslant 0
[/tex]

Now what does this say?

I don't think that is correct. The inequalities a^2 <= xy and a^2 <= xz cannot be
usefully subtracted to get 0 <= x(y-z); for example, 1 <= A and 1 <= B says nothing
about the sign of (A-B). Instead, we can write a^2 <= xy and -b^2 <= -xz, so
*adding* these gives a^2 - b^2 <= x(y-z). Similarly we have
b^2 >= xy and -a^2 >= -xz so
b^2 - a^2 >= x(y-z). Altogether we have -(b^2-a^2) <= x(y-z) <= b^2-a^2, which
does not seem very useful.

RGV
 

1. What is a volume integral?

A volume integral, also known as a triple integral, is a mathematical concept used in multivariable calculus to find the volume of a three-dimensional region. It involves integrating a function over a three-dimensional space, with the variable of integration representing the volume element.

2. Why do I need to find the limits for my integral?

The limits of integration define the boundaries of the region over which the function will be integrated. Without proper limits, the integral will not accurately represent the desired volume.

3. How do I determine the limits for my integral?

The limits of integration for a volume integral depend on the boundaries of the three-dimensional region being considered. These boundaries can be determined by visualizing the region and identifying the limits for each of the three variables of integration.

4. Can I use a graph or diagram to help me find the limits?

Yes, using a graph or diagram can be a helpful way to visualize the three-dimensional region and determine the limits of integration. It can also be useful for double-checking the accuracy of the chosen limits.

5. Are there any general rules for finding the limits of a volume integral?

Yes, there are some general rules that can be followed to find the limits for a volume integral. These include using symmetry to simplify the limits, breaking the region into smaller parts with known limits, and using coordinate transformations to simplify the integral.

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