CP properties of field strength tensor

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The discussion revolves around the CP properties of the field strength tensor in the context of a specific Lagrangian involving fermionic fields. Participants explore the implications of different terms in the Lagrangian on CP violation, particularly focusing on the transformation properties of the gluon field strength tensor and its components.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation regarding the CP transformation properties of the Lagrangian, suggesting that certain terms lead to CP violation.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the original question and suggests using a test function for clarity.
  • A third participant raises a point about the hermiticity of the σμν term, implying it may affect the analysis.
  • A later reply clarifies the initial inquiry, emphasizing the differing transformation properties of the derivative and non-abelian parts of the gluon field strength tensor.
  • The same participant acknowledges the non-hermiticity of σμν but notes that the presence of an i in the Lagrangian addresses this issue.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the CP properties of the field strength tensor, with differing views on the implications of the terms in the Lagrangian and the transformation properties of the components involved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made about the transformation properties of the gluon field strength tensor and the implications of the non-hermiticity of certain terms in the Lagrangian.

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Hi,

I am trying to figure out why a term like

## L \sim i \bar \psi_L \sigma^{\mu\nu}G_{\mu\nu}^a t^a \psi_R + h.c=##
##= i \bar \psi_L \sigma^{\mu\nu}G_{\mu\nu}^a t^a \psi_R - i \bar \psi_R \sigma^{\mu\nu}G_{\mu\nu}^a t^a \psi_L ##

violates CP by looking at all the terms composing the Lagrangian.

I made a calculation (with the guidance of http://www.physics.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/EP/feinberg_pr_108_878_57.pdf) and I obtained that the fermionic part withouth the ##\gamma^5##, which goes like ## \bar \psi \gamma^\mu \gamma^\nu \psi ##,
transforms as

## [(-1)] [(-1)^\mu (-1)^\nu]##, first square bracket for C and second for P and #(-1)^\mu=1# for #\mu=0# and -1 otherwise

The term with the ##\gamma^5## transforms as

## [(-1)] [(-1) (-1)^\mu (-1)^\nu ]##

and naively, by writing ##G_{\mu\nu}=\partial_\mu G_\nu - \partial_\nu G_\mu## and taking into account the vector properties of ##G_\mu## and that ##C(G)=-1## I assumed that the field strength transforms as

## [(-1)] [(-1)^\mu (-1)^\nu]##

In this way, under CP, the lagrangian goes into

## L \sim i \bar \psi_R \sigma^{\mu\nu}G_{\mu\nu}^a t^a \psi_L + h.c## which implies CP violation, by comparing to the second term of the original lagrangian, since there is a sign difference. In case where there is no ##\gamma^5## CP is preserved.

However I was then thinking a bit more about this and immediately realized that

##G_{\mu\nu}=\partial_\mu G_\nu - \partial_\nu G_\mu + i [G_\mu,G_\nu]##

it seems to me that the derivative terms have the following CP properties

##\mu=0, \nu=i~~ P=-1, C=-1 \to CP=+1##
##\mu=i, \nu=j ~~ P=+1, C=-1 \to CP=-1##

whereas the ##G^2## proportional term seems to go

##\mu=0, \nu=i ~~ P=-1, C=+1 \to CP=-1##
##\mu=i, \nu=j ~~ P=+1, C=+1 \to CP=+1##

where ##C=+1## since I have two fields that have ##C=-1##. This has opposite transformation property of the derivative part. Where I am mistaking?

Thanks a lot!
 
This is definitely an interesting question, I'm just a bit confused as to what exactly you're asking. You're trying to pull apart and manipulate that lagrangian to check for CP violation? It's been a little while for me but can you use a test function? Like Greg said, if you could reword it a little bit I would be interested in helping you get to the bottom of this.
 
It could be that σμν is not hermitian.
 
Hi All,
Sorry for my silence but I've been offline for a bit.

So, to rephrase it a bit, I could say that I don't understand the CP properties transformation of the gluon fields strength tensor, since it seems to me that the derivative part and the pure non-abelian part (the G^2 term) have different transformation properties. Of course there is something I am missing here, but I don't know what...

To reply to my2cts, yes, ##\sigma^{\mu\nu}## is not hermitian, it's h.c. picks up a sign, but then you have a ##i## in the Lagrangian that fixes the issue.
 

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