Principal ideals of rings without unity

  • Thread starter Thread starter Wingeer
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Rings Unity
Wingeer
Messages
76
Reaction score
0
Both my book and lecturer have in the definition a ring omitted the requirement of a unity.
I was reading in my book about ideals, more specifically principal ideals. I stumbled over a formula that differed by whether or not the ring had a unity. As an example I state the two for principal left ideals for a ring R:
(a)_l = \{ar+na | r \in R, n \in \mathbf{Z} \}
(a)_l = \{ar | r \in R,\}
Why is the extra term omitted if the ring does not have a unity? I bet the explanation is easy answer, but despite how hard I am looking at it, I cannot figure it out.
I also looked at an example. I took 2Z which has no unity and looked at 4Z which is a principal left (or right) ideal generated by 4. The formula then dictates that:
(4)_l = \{ 4r + 4n | r \in 2 \mathbf{Z}, n \in \mathbf{Z} \}
But then why not just say that:
(4)_l = \{ 4n | n \in \mathbf{Z} \} = 4 \mathbf{Z}

Am I doing something horrendously wrong here?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I'm not used to working with rings without a unity. But I think I have the answer.

They key is that you of course want that a\in (a). But if we set

\{ar~\vert~r\in R\}

then there is nothing which forces a to be in that set. In a ring with unity, we could simply set r=1 and it follows immediately that a is in the set. But without unity, we simply do not know.

That's why we set

\{ar+na~\vert~r\in R,n\in \mathbb{Z}\}

taking r=0 and n=1 gives us that a is in the set. So in this case we do have a\in (a). But of course, if we have a in there, then we also need to have a+a=2a in there. So that's what the n is for.
 
Aha! That makes perfect sense.
I guess the same explanation goes for the principal two sided ideal:
(a) = \{ \sum_{i} r_i a s_i + ra + as + na | r,s,r_i,s_i \in R, n \in \mathbf{Z} /}
Where the sum is finite. If R had a unity, then first off we could set r_i and s_i = 1 which would imply that a is in the ideal. Moreover, without a unity we can't guarantee that either ra or as exists since we can't set any r_i or s_i equal to 1. But they have to exist by the definition of a principal two sided ideal.
If R has a unity, then we would have:
(a) = \{ \sum_{i} r_i a s_i | r_i,s_i \in R /}
 
Last edited:
Another question somewhat related:
I just read in my book that "An ideal A in a ring R is maximal if and only if the pair X,A, for all ideals X not a subset of A, is comaximal".
What does it mean for two ideals to be comaximal? That X+A=R. Is this just taking every element in X, and every element in A and putting them together in one bigger rng? How can there exist several ideals X that satisfy this? Does this also mean that if a ring R has a maximal ideal A then you have a family of ideals that "spans" the whole ring?
And yeah, R does not necessarily have a unity.
 
Wingeer said:
Another question somewhat related:
I just read in my book that "An ideal A in a ring R is maximal if and only if the pair X,A, for all ideals X not a subset of A, is comaximal".
What does it mean for two ideals to be comaximal? That X+A=R. Is this just taking every element in X, and every element in A and putting them together in one bigger rng? How can there exist several ideals X that satisfy this? Does this also mean that if a ring R has a maximal ideal A then you have a family of ideals that "spans" the whole ring?
And yeah, R does not necessarily have a unity.

I think you need an example. In the ring \mathbb{Z}. If a and b satisfy gcd(a,b)=1, then a\mathbb{Z} and b\mathbb{Z} are comaximal.

So for example, 4\mathbb{Z} is comaximal with 15\mathbb{Z} and 3247\mathbb{Z}. So you can see that there are multiple ideal with which an ideal can be comaximal with.

Note that the maximal ideals of \mathbb{Z} are exactly of the form p\mathbb{Z} with p prime.
 
I actually deduced that result earlier today. Should have thought of it when regarding multiple ideals comaximal to another one. Thanks. :-)
What, however, if the ring has no unity?
 
Back
Top