What is the most effective context for understanding science?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of clarity in science, using the metaphor of a white object being most visible against a black background. Participants explore how this principle can be applied to science, questioning what context might enhance our understanding of scientific concepts. The idea is proposed that science should be viewed in contrast to an "anti-science" to achieve clarity, akin to Newton's principle of equal and opposite reactions. This leads to debates about what constitutes "anti-science," with references to politics and religion as potential contrasts. The conversation touches on the implications of contrasting scientific theories with those that make incorrect predictions, raising concerns about the validity and purpose of such an approach. Overall, the dialogue emphasizes the importance of context in understanding scientific principles and the potential risks of misrepresenting science through oppositional frameworks.
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I've been thinking about the concept of clarity as it applies to science.

A white object is most clearly seen with a black background or context.

So how does that principle apply to science? In other words, with what context should we view science so we can see it most clearly?

Theoretically, going by the white-black principle, science should be seen in the context most opposite from it, so it can be seen the most clearly.

I'm sure there are many answers to this question.
 
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I think this post needs more context to make any sense :)
 
Can you give an example?
 
You're taking the metaphor way too far. But I'm waiting for the reasons why you made this post.

What do you think science is missing??
 
mathscience said:
I've been thinking about the concept of clarity as it applies to science.

A white object is most clearly seen with a black background or context.

So how does that principle apply to science? In other words, with what context should we view science so we can see it most clearly?

Theoretically, going by the white-black principle, science should be seen in the context most opposite from it, so it can be seen the most clearly.

I'm sure there are many answers to this question.

You are absolutely correct. I once photographed a white bird in the snow, and all you could see was a beady little eye.

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Contrast!
 
Maybe politics. The global warming debate (banned on here) uses science in a political context. One could contend that politics isn't rational, so it stands in stark contrast to science.
 
But what are you proposing?? Isn't science good how it is now??
 
That seems pretty limited. What if you are talking about theoretical physics...what would you "contrast it with"...
 
mathscience said:
Theoretically, going by the white-black principle, science should be seen in the context most opposite from it, so it can be seen the most clearly.
Explain what you mean by this.
 
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Think of it in terms of Newton's principle. Equal and opposite. We must theoretically create an "anti-science" that is equal and opposite to the science were are thinking about. Just like you can't see something white if the background is also white.
 
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mathscience said:
Think of it in terms of Newton's principle. Equal and opposite. We must theoretically create an "anti-science" that is equal and opposite to the science were are thinking about. Just like you can't see something white if the background is also white.

And what must that anti-science consist of?? What do you propose??
 
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So for some physical theory you want a respective theory that makes all the wrong predictions and fails to represent reality?
 
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The opposite is religion.

Science is about knowing based on facts.
Religion is about knowing in the absence of facts (AKA faith).
 
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WannabeNewton said:
So for some physical theory you want a respective theory that makes all the wrong predictions and fails to represent reality?

No, he wants science books consisting of anti-particles.
 
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micromass said:
No, he wants science books consisting of anti-particles.

Sounds dangerous.
 
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WannabeNewton said:
So for some physical theory you want a respective theory that makes all the wrong predictions and fails to represent reality?

Kind of that, that is if it can be isolated and put into model form.
 
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Enough.
 
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