J.J. Thomson's cathode ray experiment

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Rohlf's Modern Physics textbook states that the q/m ratio for electrons is significantly smaller than that for ionized atoms, suggesting either a smaller electron charge or mass. The discussion highlights confusion regarding the terms q/m and m/q, with some participants asserting that the interpretation may be incorrect. It is clarified that the electron's mass is indeed much smaller, leading to the conclusion that m/q should be smaller for electrons. The conversation emphasizes the importance of precise terminology in understanding these concepts. Overall, the participants agree on the need for clarity in the discussion of electron properties.
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In Rohlf's Modern Physics textbook it reads: "The value of q/m for the electron determined by Thomson wan substantially smaller than the values of q/m determined by electrolysis, that is, q/m for the electron is much smaller than for ionized atoms. There were two extreme possibilities: (1) The electron charge is much smaller than the charge of an ionized atom, or (2) the electron mass is much smaller than the mass of an ionized atom (or both!) " (Rohlf 12).

Of course we know the mass to be much smaller but is the book description correct? It seems to me that m/q should be smaller for electrons, not q/m, because either the mass is smaller or the charge is larger. Could someone shed light on this?


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Looks like Rohlf has it backwards - good catch.
The confusion may arise because some refer to m/q and some to q/m.
 
Okay thanks. It was bugging me.
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks

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