Paradox of star - mesh transform ?

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The discussion centers on a circuit scenario involving a node connected to multiple resistors, including a negative resistance that equals the negative sum of the others. The application of the star-mesh transformation leads to an equivalent resistance of zero, suggesting all nodes should have equal voltage, which contradicts the original circuit's potential differences. This raises questions about the validity of equivalence transformations when negative resistances are involved. Participants highlight the mathematical implications of encountering a zero divided by zero scenario, indicating a fundamental issue rather than a straightforward electrical question. The conversation ultimately seeks clarification on the applicability of these transformations in circuits with negative resistances.
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Dear All,

I have encountered the following situation:
Given a node that is connected through n resistors to n ports.
One if the resistors is a negative resistance and equals to minus of all other resistors in parallel.
\frac{1}{R_n} =- \sum_{i=1}^{n-1} \frac{1}{R_i}
Using the well known star - mesh transformation, I get
R_{k,j} = R_k R_j ( \sum_{k=1}^{n} \frac{1}{R_i} )
that equals to 0, due to the definition of R_n.
R_{k,j} = 0

Therefore, the equivalent mesh representation of this circuit is a shortcut of all nodes.
It makes sense from one side, because the total circuit has zero impedance, but, from the other side, this transform says that all nodes should be of equal voltage. The last one is not true, because in the original network the nodes may have different potentials.

What do I miss ?
Any ideas ?
Are the equivalence transforms applicable for negative resistances ?
 
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You have cleverly found a case of zero divided by zero. That is undefined and this is not an electrical question.
 
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