What Are the Advantages of Using SVG for Web Design?

[dduardo]

Which browser do you use? If your using IE you should consider switching to firefox:

http://www.mozilla.org/

 

[mattmns]

I use Firefox (fx) on windows xp and linux. However, I have been recently trying out Konqueror on linux, as the fx mouse gestures are funky on linux (for me anyway).
If you are using IE, you should consider switching to anything that is NOT Internet Explorer

 

[Kerrie]

firefox all the way baby!

 

[dduardo]

firefox all the way baby!

Yeah, let's stick it to Evo for not wanting to switch.

 

[Pengwuino]

I hear Microsoft is trying to make a big step with IE7. Tabbed browsing, "real security"... some other crap... probably won't work so I am sticken with Da Fox.

 

[dduardo]

I hear Microsoft is trying to make a big step with IE7. Tabbed browsing, "real security"... some other crap... probably won't work so I am sticken with Da Fox.

I guess you haven't been hearing what people have been saying about IE7

http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/47208/47208.html

"My advice is simple: Boycott IE. It's a cancer on the Web that must be stopped. IE isn't secure and isn't standards-compliant, which makes it unworkable both for end users and Web content creators. Because of their user bases, however, Web developers are hamstrung into developing for IE at the expense of established standards that work well in all other browsers. You can turn the tide by demanding more from Microsoft and by using a better alternative Web browser. I recommend and use Mozilla Firefox, but Apple Safari (Macintosh only) and Opera 8 are both worth considering as well."

 

[Evo]

Yeah, let's stick it to Evo for not wanting to switch.

I can't switch! Besides, I get to use "special" stuff that you guys can't. <sticks tongue out>

But I agree with dduardo, mere mortals should use firefox.

 

[Pengwuino]

Its a beta though, how can you judge a beta.

Oh wait its microsoft, retail and beta mean the same thing

 

[mattmns]

IE Secure? Are they joking? They have had plenty of time, and plenty of money to fix their security problems.

Some of IE's Vulnerabilies have been there forever. Check out secunia's report of the most popular browsers. There is a "highly critical" Vulnerability that has been there since August of 2003.

IE: http://secunia.com/product/11/
Firefox: http://secunia.com/product/4227/
Opera: http://secunia.com/product/4932/
Safari: http://secunia.com/product/5289/

 

[mattmns]

I can't switch! Besides, I get to use "special" stuff that you guys can't. <sticks tongue out>

But I agree with dduardo, mere mortals should use firefox.

You get to use "special stuff"? Did not you say a while ago that your IE at work does not even have tabs? Tabs in the sense of firefox's tabs, not tasbar buttons

 

[dduardo]

For those who want a peak at IE7 here is a screenshot:

http://www.winsupersite.com/images/showcase/ie7_promo_b1xp.jpg

 

[Evo]

Its a beta though, how can you judge a beta.

Oh wait its microsoft, retail and beta mean the same thing

True. Microsoft refers to their customers as the "vast unpaid research department".

But most of you weren't working on computers before Windows, I was.

 

[dduardo]

Its a beta though, how can you judge a beta.

Oh wait its microsoft, retail and beta mean the same thing

Microsoft has already stated too that they are not going to be adding any major CSS functionality to IE7. All they are doing is "just enough" to appease home users. Microsoft is giving the big FU to all developers. This really sucks for developers like me who want to build richer websites but get held back by IE.

 

[Evo]

You get to use "special stuff"? Did not you say a while ago that your IE at work does not even have tabs? Tabs in the sense of firefox's tabs, not tasbar buttons

I also don't have any problems with the "buttons" as you call them. Yes, what I use for work is a bit different from what is on the market.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Currently I am using the browser that is in Outlook. A stripped down version of IE it seems like to me. On my own computer I prefer Opera though.

 

[Evo]

Aww, my Norton anti-virus just popped up and said it detected a worm trying to install itself and blocked it. :!) God bless it.

 

[Moonbear]

True. Microsoft refers to their customers as the "vast unpaid research department".

But most of you weren't working on computers before Windows, I was.

Well, I was playing around with computers before windows, mostly playing Jeopardy and writing English papers (that printed on a dot matrix printer). Oh, wait, and there was the Commodore 64, and programming in BASIC to make Mr. Bo Jangles (the stick figure that danced). But, yeah, I think "working" with computers began with Windows 3.11 for me. Well, college assignments were done on those little square Mac pluses. I remember thinking they were way too fast to read while scrolling down a page.

 

[dduardo]

Evo, are you using the built in window's firewall? It could be the worm I posted in my Internet Alert:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=85159

 

[mattmns]

Aww, my Norton anti-virus just popped up and said it detected a worm trying to install itself and blocked it. :!) God bless it.

That is terrible, luckily you have Norton. I hope everyone that is using IE has Norton or another AntiVirus detector, because as you pointed out you never know what will automatically install by itself when using IE.

 

[Evo]

That is terrible, luckily you have Norton. I hope everyone that is using IE has Norton or another AntiVirus detector, because as you pointed out you never know what will automatically install by itself when using IE.

I'm not foolish enough to use IE and not have something like Norton enabled.

I had a Commodore 64, I believe it's still in the basement.

 

[Moonbear]

Microsoft has already stated too that they are not going to be adding any major CSS functionality to IE7. All they are doing is "just enough" to appease home users. Microsoft is giving the big FU to all developers. This really sucks for developers like me who want to build richer websites but get held back by IE.

Well, I think everyone should just start developing websites that look wonderful with the other browsers and don't work with IE. When people can't access anything on the web anymore, maybe they'll finally switch, or Microsoft will be forced to do something about it. Besides, it'll keep the AOL users away.

 

[Evo]

Evo, are you using the built in window's firewall? I could be the worm I posted in my Internet Alert:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=85159

No, a friend installed something else. It was my Symantec software that caught the worm. I wasn't even doing anything.

 

[Moonbear]

Evo, are you using the built in window's firewall? I could be the worm I posted in my Internet Alert:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=85159

dduardo is the worm!

 

[Evo]

dduardo is the worm!

Ok dduardo, if you're that serious I'll switch, really.

 

[dduardo]

But most of you weren't working on computers before Windows, I was.

I have been surrounded by Unix my whole life. My dad used at&t unix at work and was the person who brought linux to the house. Also, when I was in elementary school I used Apple computers.

 

[mattmns]

My dad had a commodore 64 when I was a kid. I am not sure of how it worked, all I know is that I used it to play games on it.

 

[dduardo]

dduardo is the worm!

Are you happy, I fixed it.

 

[Moonbear]

Are you happy, I fixed it.

It was funnier with the typo. Just getting even for some wisecracks I owed you for.

 

[Evo]

It's too late, half of PF now believes that dduardo is sending them computer worms. You know how rumors get started...

 

[Evo]

Ah, here it is again, it's "The Thing" trojan horse. I wonder what it tries to do?