Including uncertainties in kenematic equations

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The discussion centers on calculating final velocity using the equation S=(U+V/2)*T while incorporating uncertainties. The user is confused about how to handle the constant factor of 2 in the context of uncertainty propagation. It is established that when dealing with constants, they do not contribute to relative uncertainty but will double the absolute uncertainty. The correct approach involves using relative uncertainties for multiplication and division, leading to a total relative uncertainty of 98.6% for the final velocity calculation.

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Homework Statement


So basically I'm supposed to calculate final velocity given time, displacement, and initial velocity. The only problem is that I'm supposed to find these results with uncertainties included. I know the how to do basic calculations with uncertainties I'm just confused when formula constants are involved. See below.


Homework Equations


The formula I'm using is S=(U+V/2)*T\
These are my values. .103(+/-.1)= (0+V/2)*1.14(+/-.2)


The Attempt at a Solution


After I had divided displacement by time I needed to get the 2 out from under there so I multiplied. Heres where I got confused- What do I do about the uncertainties? Do I multiply them by 2 as well?
 
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omarsalem91 said:

Homework Statement


So basically I'm supposed to calculate final velocity given time, displacement, and initial velocity. The only problem is that I'm supposed to find these results with uncertainties included. I know the how to do basic calculations with uncertainties I'm just confused when formula constants are involved. See below.

Homework Equations


The formula I'm using is S=(U+V/2)*T\
These are my values. .103(+/-.1)= (0+V/2)*1.14(+/-.2)

The Attempt at a Solution


After I had divided displacement by time I needed to get the 2 out from under there so I multiplied. Heres where I got confused- What do I do about the uncertainties? Do I multiply them by 2 as well?

When dealing with product and division uncertainty propagation I think you are using relative or percentage uncertainties, so the effect of a constant 2 with no uncertainty, should have no overall effect on the relative uncertainty of the result. (It should of course double the Absolute uncertainty.)

For your example the relative uncertainty of S is .1/.103 is 97% (was there a typo in your uncertainty?)
And the T uncertainty is .2/1.14 = 17.5% yielding a total of 97% + 17.5% + 0% (for your constant)
Hence then on your measured result of .206/1.14 = .18 ± 114.5% = .18 ± .21 which may be nonsensical since V must have been positive?

Edit:Other treatments of uncertainty propagation use the RSS of absolute uncertainties for addition and subtraction and RSS of Relative uncertainties for multiplication and division operations, when the measurement quantities are independent.

In this case the sq root of (.97)2 + (.175)2 yields 98.6%
 
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Thanks so much and yes there was a typo- it was .01/.103
 

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