Transformation of acceleration between two reference frames

In summary, you need to find the gamma of the transformation between two frames of reference. Then use that gamma to calculate the transformation between the frames.
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hello

i want to derive the Transformation of acceleration between two reference frames
i searched in internet and found a book but i don't understand just one step

i attach a picture so you can see what i found in the internet

my problem is eq. (1.10) \begin{align}du=\frac{dU}{\gamma ^{2}(1-U\frac{v}{c^{2}})^{2}}\end{align}
how did he get this factor
can you please give me a tip


thank you very much
 

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There's a misprint. Calculus rule is d(x/y) = (y dx - x dy)/y2 where x = U - v and y = 1 - Uv/c2, so the first denominator in Eq.(1.10) should be (1 - U v/c2)2. The numerator is dU(1 - v2/c2), which reduces to dU(1/γ2).
 
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thank you for your answer
where is this misprint? is it the first denominator? the square is missing right?
my problem is this gamma in eq 1.10 how did he get it? i don't understand it
also the next step with gamma
can you show me how to get it?
thank you
 
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Paul Black said:
thank you for your answer
where is this misprint? is it the first denominator? the square is missing right?
my problem is this gamma in eq 1.10 how did he get it? i don't understand it
also the next step with gamma
can you show me how to get it?
thank you

There are TWO errors, not one in the book:

[tex]dU=\frac{dU(1-Uv/c^2)-(U-v)(-dUv/c^2)}{(1-Uv/c^2)^2}[/tex]

The final result is correct, the derivation is riddled with errors.
 
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xox thank you for your answer but I am sorry you are wrong
the positive sign is wrong. it must be negative
therefore the only one error is the square in the denominator

but this is not my problem. i just want to know how to get the next step with gamma square.
hope you can help me
 
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Paul Black said:
xox thank you for your answer but I am sorry you are wrong
the positive sign is wrong. it must be negative
therefore the only one error is the square in the denominator

but this is not my problem. i just want to know how to get the next step with gamma square.
hope you can help me

There are TWO minus signs, they indeed cancel each other, so I was a little pedantic. [tex]du=\frac{dU(1-Uv/c^2)-(U-v)(-dUv/c^2)}{(1-Uv/c^2)^2}=\frac{dU(1-v^2/c^2)}{(1-Uv/c^2)^2}[/tex]

But [tex]1-v^2/c^2=\frac{1}{\gamma^2}[/tex]
 
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yes you are right
sorryyyy

this gamma confused me xD
 
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Paul Black said:
yes you are right
sorryyyy

this gamma confused me xD

You are welcome!
 
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xox
thank you very much. i get it
so now i have to divide both sides by dt to get du/dt=a
but again with this gamma. eq 1.11 i don't understand it
 
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Paul Black said:
xox
thank you very much. i get it
so now i have to divide both sides by dt to get du/dt=a
but again with this gamma. eq 1.11 i don't understand it

OK, let's help u a little more:

We agree that:
[tex]du=\frac{dU}{\gamma^2(1-Uv/c^2)^2}[/tex]

Now,

[tex]dt=\gamma(dT-dXv/c^2)[/tex]

Therefore:

[tex]a=\frac{du}{dt}=\frac{dU}{\gamma^3(1-Uv/c^2)^2(dT-dXv/c^2)}=\frac{dU/dT}{\gamma^3(1-Uv/c^2)^2(1-dX/dTv/c^2)}=\frac{dU/dT}{\gamma^3(1-Uv/c^2)^3}=\frac{A}{\gamma^3(1-Uv/c^2)^3}[/tex]

If [itex]u=V[/itex] then [itex]a=\gamma^3A[/itex]
 
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thank you i got it finally
thank you very much
 
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Paul Black said:
thank you i got it finally
thank you very much

Glad I could help.
 
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1. What is the transformation of acceleration between two reference frames?

The transformation of acceleration between two reference frames is a concept in physics that explains how acceleration appears to change when observed from different reference frames. It is based on the principles of relativity, which state that the laws of physics should be the same for all observers in uniform motion.

2. Why is it important to understand the transformation of acceleration between two reference frames?

Understanding the transformation of acceleration is crucial in order to accurately describe and predict the motion of objects in different reference frames. It allows us to reconcile different perspectives and observations of the same event and make accurate calculations and predictions in physics.

3. How is the transformation of acceleration calculated?

The transformation of acceleration is calculated using the formula a' = a + dv/dt, where a' is the observed acceleration in one reference frame, a is the actual acceleration in another reference frame, and dv/dt is the rate of change in velocity between the two frames.

4. Can the transformation of acceleration be negative?

Yes, the transformation of acceleration can be negative. This occurs when the two reference frames are moving in opposite directions, resulting in a negative velocity difference and a negative transformation of acceleration.

5. How does the transformation of acceleration relate to the transformation of velocity?

The transformation of acceleration and the transformation of velocity are closely related and both are based on the principles of relativity. The transformation of velocity is used to calculate the observed velocity in one reference frame based on the actual velocity in another frame, while the transformation of acceleration takes into account the rate of change in velocity between the two frames.

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