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The discussion focuses on the transformation of the graph of y=√x to y=√(9x), identifying the nature of the stretches involved. It concludes that this transformation can be described as a horizontal stretch by a factor of 1/9 about the y-axis or a vertical stretch by a factor of 3 about the x-axis. The confusion arises regarding the horizontal stretch, with participants discussing the relationship between the square root of 9 and the resulting factors. It is clarified that changes in x occur before applying the base function, while changes in y occur afterward. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding how transformations affect both axes in graphing functions.
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Homework Statement


A stretch is applied to the graph of y=/x to produce the graph of y=/9x . Relative to the x and y axis, this stretch may be described as either a... (then it lists a, b, c, or d answers)

The answer is:
horizontal stretch by a factor of 1 over 9 about the y-axis or a vertical stretch by a factor of 3 about the x-axis.

2. The attempt at a solution
I understand that the root of 9 is 3, so it makes sense to me that the vertical stretch is 3. But what I don't understand is why is the horizontal stretch is 1 over 9. Should I not find the root of that and then it be 1 over 3? The only thing I can think of is the the 9 is like this /(9x) and I have to take the 9 out and then I still have a nine outside. /9 = 3 then 3^2 = 9 again. So it comes out to be 1 over 9.

I also assume, although I'm not sure if I'm correct is the reason that it can be a vertical or horizontal stretch is because its not defined in the equation as being a vertical or horizontal stretch.
 
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The Matador said:
Sorry I don't know how to show the root sign on the forums so I am just going to use /

Homework Statement


A stretch is applied to the graph of y=/x to produce the graph of y=/9x . Relative to the x and y axis, this stretch may be described as either a... (then it lists a, b, c, or d answers)

The answer is:
horizontal stretch by a factor of 1 over 9 about the y-axis or a vertical stretch by a factor of 3 about the x-axis.

2. The attempt at a solution
I understand that the root of 9 is 3, so it makes sense to me that the vertical stretch is 3. But what I don't understand is why is the horizontal stretch is 1 over 9. Should I not find the root of that and then it be 1 over 3? The only thing I can think of is the the 9 is like this /(9x) and I have to take the 9 out and then I still have a nine outside. /9 = 3 then 3^2 = 9 again. So it comes out to be 1 over 9.

I also assume, although I'm not sure if I'm correct is the reason that it can be a vertical or horizontal stretch is because its not defined in the equation as being a vertical or horizontal stretch.
Obviously y= \sqrt{9x} is the same thing as y= 3\sqrt{x}. Since your base equation is y'= \sqrt{x'} (I put the primes on to distinguish the "old" equation from the new), thinking of this a "change in y" it is y= 3y'= 3(\sqrt{x}): the "old value of y" is multiplied by 3 so it is a "stretch" of 3 of the vertical y-axis. However, thinking of this as a change only in x, y= \sqrt{x'}= \sqrt{9x}: x'= 9x or x= (1/9)x'. The "old value" of x' is multiplied by 1/9, not 1/3. Changes in x occur before the "base" function (here \sqrt{x}) is applied, changes in y occur after.

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Ok thanks for clarifying that for me.
 
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