Proving (tan2x) - (sin2x) = (tan2x)(sin2x): Trigonometric Proof Help

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The discussion centers on proving the equation (tan2x) - (sin2x) = (tan2x)(sin2x) using trigonometric identities. Participants suggest substituting tan2x with sin2x/cos2x and factoring out sin2x from the left-hand side. The key to the proof lies in recognizing that 1 - cos2x equals sin2x, which simplifies the expression significantly. Ultimately, it is clarified that the equation can be rewritten as tan2x * sin2x, confirming the equality. The collaborative effort leads to a successful understanding of the proof.
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Homework Statement



(tan2x) - (sin2x) = (tan2x)(sin2x)

Prove these two are equal.

Homework Equations



Various trig identities, mainly tan2x = sin2x / cos2x

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried putting in Sin2x / cos2x for tan, but I don't know where to go from there.

Anyone mind helping me out?
 
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This has a really simple solution. Factor out sin(x)^2 from the left hand side and then simplify.
 
jgens said:
This has a really simple solution. Factor out sin(x)^2 from the left hand side and then simplify.

I don't how/where you can factor sin(x)^2 out in this case. This is what I have done to the left side thus far.

\frac{sin^{2}x}{cos^{2}x} - \frac{sin^{2}x}{1}

then

\frac{sin^{2}x}{cos^{2}x} - \frac{sin^{2}xcos^{2}x}{cos^{2}x}

which ends up as

\frac{sin^{2}x - sin^{2}xcos^{2}x}{cos^{2}x}}
 
Well, using your steps, you're almost at the solution. Again, factor sin(x)^2 out of the numerator and simplify. :)

This is what I was talking about in my initial post: tan(x)^2 - sin(x)^2 = sin(x)^2 (sec(x)^2 - 1), which is easy to simplify.
 
jgens said:
Well, using your steps, you're almost at the solution. Again, factor sin(x)^2 out of the numerator and simplify. :)

This is what I was talking about in my initial post: tan(x)^2 - sin(x)^2 = sin(x)^2 (sec(x)^2 - 1), which is easy to simplify.

\frac{sin^{2}x (1 -cos^{2}x)}{cos^{2}x}}

I'm missing something, because I still don't get it. What am I overlooking? Sin/Cos is equal to Tan, but then I have (1 - cos2x)/(cos2x)
 
Are you familiar with the trig. identity sin(x)^2 + cos(x)^2 = 1? If you are, the solution should seem fairly obvious in both instances.
 
At this point I have:

\frac{sin^{2}x (1 -cos^{2}x)}{cos^{2}x}} = (\frac{sin^{2}x}{cos^{2}x})(\frac{sin^{2}x}{1}})

I know that identity, but I can't see how it can be used on either side.

I'm sorry for my complete lack of ability to grasp this.
 
If you know that identity then you surely know 1 - cos(x)^2 = sin(x)^2 or similarly that sec(x)^2 - 1 = tan(x)^2.
 
Faint said:
At this point I have:

\frac{sin^{2}x (1 -cos^{2}x)}{cos^{2}x}} = (\frac{sin^{2}x}{cos^{2}x})(\frac{sin^{2}x}{1}})

I know that identity, but I can't see how it can be used on either side.

I'm sorry for my complete lack of ability to grasp this.

Just realized this:

\frac{sin^{2}x (1 -cos^{2}x)}{cos^{2}x}} = \frac{sin^{2}x(sin^{2}x)}{cos^{2}x}

which turns into


\frac{sin^{2}x (1 -cos^{2}x)}{cos^{2}x}} = \frac{sin^{2}x(1-cos^{2}x)}{cos^{2}x}

Did I do anything incorrect there? And thank you very much for your help.
 
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Nothing there is incorrect - in fact that result should tell you something - but you should have made a connection which it appears you have still failed to make. If 1 - cos(x)^2 = sin(x)^2 and we have (1 - cos(x)^2)/cos(x)^2, what substitution can I make to simplify the expression?
 
  • #11
jgens said:
Nothing there is incorrect - in fact that result should tell you something - but you should have made a connection which it appears you have still failed to make. If 1 - cos(x)^2 = sin(x)^2 and we have (1 - cos(x)^2)/cos(x)^2, what substitution can I make to simplify the expression?

sin(x)^2
------------ = tan(x)^2
cos(x)^2

Correct? I get confused when this happens though:

\frac{sin^{2}x (sin^{2}x)}{cos^{2}x}}

to

tan^{2}x\frac{sin^{2}x}{cos^{2}x}}

or does the cos(x)^2 drop?
 
  • #12
The cos(x)^2 term does not drop but is merely factored out essentially in the tan(x)^2 term; hence, your resulting equation should read tan(x)^2 sin(x)^2. Q.E.D.
 
  • #13
jgens said:
The cos(x)^2 term does not drop but is merely factored out essentially in the tan(x)^2 term; hence, your resulting equation should read tan(x)^2 sin(x)^2. Q.E.D.

Okay, I understand. Thank you a lot for the great help. :)
 
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