How Do You Calculate Work Required to Move a Charge Near a Charged Ring?

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To calculate the work required to move a point charge near a charged ring, the correct approach involves understanding the relationship between electric potential and potential energy. The equation U = kqQ/√(a² + z²) is intended for potential energy but may not apply directly to the scenario described. It's essential to first determine the electric field at the point of interest and at the origin, then use these fields to calculate the electric potential. The work done can be found by integrating the electric field along the path of movement, ensuring to multiply by the charge to convert to units of work. Understanding these concepts is crucial for arriving at the correct answer in joules and electron volts.
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A charge of 10 nC is uniformly distributed around a ring of radius 10 cm that has its center at the origin and its axis along the x axis. A point charge of 1 nC is located at x = 1.75 m. Find the work required to move the point charge to the origin. Give your answer in both joules and electron volts.

I'm using this equation, but I'm I keep getting it wrong. U=\frac{kqQ}{\sqrt{a^{2}+z^{2}}}

a=10 cm
z=1.75 m
q=1 nC
Q=10 nC
 
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Look at the units of your equation.
It is in Newtons*Meters

What are the units of electrical potential? How would you adjust your equation to compensate, or what do you think it DOES describe that is of use to you?
 
I guess what's confusing me is that it is asking for an answer in Joules. Isn't electrical potential N*m/C? So I should divide by a charge for potential?
 
BustedBreaks said:
I guess what's confusing me is that it is asking for an answer in Joules. Isn't electrical potential N*m/C? So I should divide by a charge for potential?

Exactly! What you have there is an expression for the potential energy of a particle of charge q

1 V = 1\frac{J}{C}=1\frac{N\cdot m}{C}

I do, however, think that your equation doesn't have anything to do with the potential energy of a particle in the system described? How did you get it?

Try finding the field at that point, and the field at the origin (The center of the ring) and use the fields there to find the electrical potential. Using the potential, you can find the work that the question asks for.

For the two dimensional case:

U_{AB}=\int^{A}_{B} E \cdot dr
 
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RoyalCat said:
Exactly! What you have there is an expression for the potential energy of a particle of charge q

1 V = 1\frac{J}{C}=1\frac{N\cdot m}{C}

I do, however, think that your equation doesn't have anything to do with the potential energy of a particle in the system described? How did you get it?

Try finding the field at that point, and the field at the origin (The center of the ring) and use the fields there to find the electrical potential. Using the potential, you can find the work that the question asks for.

For the two dimensional case:

U_{AB}=\int^{A}_{B} E \cdot dr


My original equation, U=\frac{kqQ}{\sqrt{a^{2}+z^{2}}} gives units N*m which is Joules, which is what the question asks for... Why is that wrong?

The equation you gave at the bottom won't give Joules if I Integrate E for a charged ring, E=\frac{KQz}{(z^{2}+a^{2})^{\frac{3}{2}}}

I would have to multiply that by a charge, maybe q, to get units of work...

Still not working for me.
 
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