Rotational inertia of a THICK spherical shell

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The discussion focuses on calculating the rotational inertia of a thick spherical shell with inner radius r, outer radius R, and mass M. The correct formula derived is I_{shell} = (2/5)M/(R^3-r^3)(R^5-r^5), which differs from simply subtracting the inertia of a larger sphere from a smaller one. Participants clarify that the mass M in the inertia formula I = (2/5)MR^2 is not uniform across the two spheres involved. Additionally, the conversation highlights the importance of using LaTeX for clearer mathematical representation.

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Will
Someone please tell me is I am doing this problem correctly.If I have a thick spherical shell with inner radius r, outer radius R, and mass M, I am getting [(2/5)M/(R^3-r^3)](R^5-r^5). It is not the same thing as subtracting I of large sphere from I of smaller one, different than (2M(R^2-r^2)?

\frac{\2<br /> <br /> (M(R^5-r^5))}{5(R^3-r^3)}
 
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I think we need to see your work. Do you know how to LaTeX your posts?
 
Will said:
Someone please tell me is I am doing this problem correctly.If I have a thick spherical shell with inner radius r, outer radius R, and mass M, I am getting [(2/5)M/(R^3-r^3)](R^5-r^5).
That's correct.
It is not the same thing as subtracting I of large sphere from I of smaller one, different than (2/5)M(R^2-r^2)?
Not exactly. If you treat the hole as a sphere of negative mass, then you can subtract the rotational inertia of each sphere: I_{shell} = I_{R-sphere} - I_{r-sphere}. But realize that the mass of each sphere is different. If you express this answer in terms of the mass of the shell instead of the mass of either sphere, then you will find that you get the same answer as above.
 
Good catch, Doc Al. He is saying that the M in the I = 2/5 MR^2 is not the same for the sphere as it is for the inner core. So you would have to provide unique labels for each.
 
JohnDubYa said:
I think we need to see your work. Do you know how to LaTeX your posts?

Do you mean making my equations in "pretty print"? Please show me where I can learn to do this, its so much easier to read!
 
learning Latex

Will said:
Do you mean making my equations in "pretty print"? Please show me where I can learn to do this, its so much easier to read!
Poke around in this thread for many, many examples: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8997
 
As a check, let the shell thickness approach zero to get the MI of a thin shell.
\Delta R^5/\Delta R^3=5R^4/3R^2=(5/3)R^2
This is multiplied by (2/5)M. The result is the correct answer of
(2/3)MR^2.
 
krab said:
As a check, let the shell thickness approach zero to get the MI of a thin shell.
\Delta R^5/\Delta R^3=5R^4/3R^2=(5/3)R^2
This is multiplied by (2/5)M. The result is the correct answer of
(2/3)MR^2.


? Does R man radius in or out?
Doesn't the other radius come into the equation?
 
Sorry for the shorthand. \Delta means the difference between the case with R and the case with r. So for example by \Delta R^5 means R^5-r^5.
 

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