Derivative of dirac delta function

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The discussion revolves around the derivative of the Dirac delta function, specifically the expression x(d/dx)δ(x) = -δ(x). Participants are exploring this within the context of the Gaussian delta sequence and its properties as outlined in the relevant equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the challenges of differentiating the delta function, noting its nature as a distribution rather than a classical function. There are attempts to substitute the derivative of the Gaussian delta sequence and evaluate limits, but some express confusion about the underlying principles of the delta function's derivative.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into generalized derivatives and the necessity of considering the delta function within integrals. There is acknowledgment of the need to evaluate integrals involving the Gaussian sequence to approach the problem, and one participant expresses gratitude for the guidance received.

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Participants are working under the constraints of using the Gaussian delta sequence and are grappling with the definitions and properties of the delta function and its derivative. There is an emphasis on the requirement for smooth functions with compact support in the context of generalized derivatives.

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Homework Statement



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x\frac{d}{dx}\delta(x)=-\delta)(x)

using the gaussian delta sequence (\delta_n) and treating \delta(x) and its derivative as in eq. 1.151.

Homework Equations


the gaussian delta sequence given in the book is
\delta_n=\frac{n}{\sqrt{\pi}}e^{-n^2x^2}

and eq 1.151 is just part of the definition of the delta function:
f(0)=\displaystyle\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}f(x)\delta(x)dx


The Attempt at a Solution



thus far, I have tried substitution the derivative of \delta_n(x) for the derivative of the delta function, and then taking the limit as n goes to infinity, but that got me nowhere. I have also tried integrating both sides to see where it got me, but that was nowhere useful. The problem is I just don't understand how the derivative of the delta function works on its own.
 
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The delta function is actually a distribution, and is not differentiable in the classical sense. In order to consider such differentiation, we have to revert to generalized derivatives. This is done by assuming a certain level of differentiability on f and some vanishing conditions.

If f is a smooth function with compact support on a set D, the generalized derivative v' of a distribution v is any function w such that
\int_D v' f dx = - \int_D w f' dx
Since the delta function is a distribution, it only truly makes sense to characterize its derivative under integration.
 
You may want to take a look at the following two pdfs:

This link talks about generalized derivatives
http://links.uwaterloo.ca/amath731docs/sobolev.pdf

This link talks about the Dirac delta distribution
http://links.uwaterloo.ca/amath731docs/delta.pdf
 
Okay, I realize that what I gave you may not be entirely helpful since you have to use the Gaussian sequence.

We know that
\displaystyle \lim_{n\to\infty} \delta_n = \delta [/itex]<br /> and that it only makes sense to consider the delta function under the integral. So try evaluating<br /> \lim_{n\to\infty} \int_{-\infty}^\infty x \frac{d}{dx} \delta_n \ dx [/itex]&lt;br /&gt; then show that the value you get is equivalent to&lt;br /&gt; \int_{-\infty}^\infty -\delta(x) \ dx
 
your first answer, and the fact that it only makes sense under integration, actually got me doing just what you suggested, so thanks. THanks for the links too, I was looking for good resources on the delta function. I think I have it now.
 

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