Acceleration in Fluid: Calculating Time for Marble's Speed to Halve

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The problem involves calculating the time it takes for a marble's speed to halve while moving through a fluid, where the acceleration is proportional to the square of the speed. The original poster presents the initial conditions and their approach to the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to use kinematic equations but is challenged by the non-uniform acceleration. Some participants suggest integrating acceleration to establish a velocity-time relationship, while others express uncertainty about integration techniques.

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Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, with some providing guidance on integration. There is a recognition of the need for a deeper understanding of calculus concepts, particularly integration, to progress further.

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There is a mention of the mass of the marble and gravity, which may affect the assumptions being made. The original poster also indicates a lack of familiarity with integration, which is central to solving the problem.

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The acceleration of a marble in a certain fluid is proportional to the speed of the marble squared and is given (in SI units) by a=-3.00v^2 for v>0. If the marble enters this fluid with a speed of 1.50m/s, how long will it take before the marble's speed is reduced to half of its initial value?

Here's what I think is it...take the derivative of a... a`=6v

d=6(.75m/s)
d=4.5m

I need the acceleration to sub in for the equation vf = vi + at
to find the time.

Am I doing any of this correct?
 
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Can't use that formula because this is not uniformily accelerated motion (acceleration is a function of velocity here). Try taking the integral of acceleration to get a v-t relationship.
 
remember from our last conversation that I don't know how to take integrals? :) Can you teach me with an example and explain what and integral does?
 
I could, but you should try reading about it on the internet, or better yet, in a calculus textbook, which will contain all the information you need. On a basic level, integration is a way to find areas under and between curves using only their equation. If you are not required to know calculus for your course, however, the questions are most likely doable without integration.

Sorry, I can't explain much more now. Gotta run.
 
UrbanX,

Since you didn't specify the mass of the marble I take it that you are ignoring gravity.

In that case
\frac {dv}{dt} = -3v^2
which amounts to integrating
\frac {dv}{v^2} = -3 dt
You should be able to handle it from there.
 
I actually have no clue what happened and how to even begin. Thank you for the example but I do not know what you are doing since I do not know how to integrate
 
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Taking from Tide's answer. Upon request by Urban.

\frac {dv}{v^2} = -3 dt

\int^{v}_{v_{o}} \frac {dv}{v^2} = \int^{t}_{0} -3 dt

-\frac{1}{v}]^{v}_{v_{o}} = -3t]^{t}_{0}


-\frac{1}{v} + \frac{1}{1.5}= -3t - 0

Urban, you know initial speed is 1.5, and v will be equal 1.5/2, so just solve for t.
 
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