What is the speed of the m1 piece after the explosion?

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The problem involves a fuel tank explosion resulting in three pieces with specified masses and directions. The objective is to determine the speed of one of the pieces (m1) given the speed of another piece (m3) and the initial conditions of the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of momentum equations and the correct application of trigonometric functions to resolve the components of momentum. There are attempts to isolate variables and substitute values into equations to find the unknown speeds.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of sine and cosine in momentum components, and there is an acknowledgment of confusion in the initial attempts to solve the equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with specific angles and directions for the pieces post-explosion, and there is mention of a diagram that may influence their understanding of the problem. There is also a reference to potential errors in the initial setup of equations.

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Homework Statement



(2) A fuel tank with a total mass of 6 kg is moving with a speed of vi = 0.5 m/s when it explodes into three pieces. The three pieces fly away from the explosion in the directions shown in the figure; N.B., vi and v3 point in the same direction. The masses of the pieces are: m1 = 1 kg, m2 = 2 kg and m3 = 3 kg. What is the speed (in m/s) of the m1 piece if v3 = 6 m/s?

v1 and v2 point in negative x direction(left). v1 points positive Y(up) and v2 points negative Y

θ1 between v3 and v1 = 127 degrees
θ2 between v1 and v2 = 90
θ3 between v3 and v2 = 143

Homework Equations



Pf = Pi

The Attempt at a Solution



I set Pi and v3 to be on the x-axis moving right as positive. There is no Piy

Pix = 6 kg * .5 m/s = 3 kg m/s
Piy = 0

Pfx = 3 kg m/s = 3 kg * 6 m/s - m1v1sinθ - m2v2sinθ

Pfy = 0 = m1v1cosθ - m2v2cosθ

If I can get one of the remaining velocities I'm home free. I tried getting the hypotenuse using tan X/6 = 127 and got x to = 536.7...or some such nonsense.
 
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Is the scenario that shown in the picture?

Are you sure you used sine and cosine correctly in the components of momentums?
Plug in the data into the equations, isolate one of the speeds and substitute into the other equation.
Show your work in detail.

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Yeah that's it. What did u use to draw it?

Originally i tried to take sin127 to get the hypo between v3 and v1. That gave me .79. Not right so i broke up theta1 now = 37° between y-axis and v1. To get the value in x direction would be sine right?
 
Then
-v1m1sin37 - m2v2sin53 = -15
V2 = -15 + m1v1sin37 / (-m2sin53)
Insert into original
3 = 18 - m1v1sin37 - (m2(-15+m1v1sin37)/-m2sin53)(sin53)

Eventually i end up at
-15 = -m1sin37v1 -15 + m1v1sin37 = 0?
 
Nevermind i got it. I was setting up v2 for the wrong equation. Thx
 

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