Sunrises and sunsets on the compass

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The discussion centers on understanding the sun's position in relation to compass directions, particularly at a latitude of 45 degrees North. It clarifies that the sun does not set directly in the west except during specific times of the year. During the summer solstice, the sun rises approximately 22.5 degrees north of due east and sets about 22.5 degrees north of due west, while at noon it reaches a height of around 21.5 degrees from zenith. Conversely, during the winter solstice, the sun rises about 67.5 degrees from zenith and sets 22.5 degrees south of due west. The calculations for the sun's altitude at noon are based on the formula involving latitude and solar declination, but the exact north-south deviations at sunrise and sunset may require further research, as they are not strictly linear. Resources for more detailed solar position data are suggested.
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I feel a fool for even asking this; my father is a Geography teacher, and I am supposedly well-educated in the sciences.

But the only dumb question is the one not asked, so...


I've never quite understood where the Sun actually rises and sets on the compass. It does not set due West (except at brief, specific times of the year).

If I live at 45N lat. then:
- at summer solstice, the sun rise to within ~22.5d of zenith at noon
- at summer dusk, the sun will not set due West, it will set at ~22.5d North of due west
- in the peak of winter, the sun will only rise to within 67.5d of zenith at noon
- at winter dusk, the sun will set 22.5d south of due west

Are these suppositions correct?
 
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Hi,

Your values are approximately correct for the height at noon. I believe the formula is (L-delta) where L is the latitude and delta is the angular distance of the sun above (or below) the equator. On summer solstice the result is (45-23.5) or 21.5 degrees from zenith, while for winter solstice it is (45+23.5) or 68.5 from zenith.

However, these may not translate exactly into the north south deviations of the sun at sunrise and sunset. The equations may notbe linear in this manner. I am not sure. You can probably look them up on the web. They might be found by searching for solar altitude, declination, or azimuth.

Try this site for tables.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.html

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