Anyone want to study Physics at Oxford or Cambridge Universities (UK)?

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The thread explores the interest in studying Physics at Oxford or Cambridge Universities, discussing various aspects of the programs, student life, and personal preferences regarding university choices. The scope includes conceptual considerations about education quality, student experiences, and comparisons with other universities.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express interest in studying Physics at Oxford or Cambridge, while others prefer different universities.
  • Concerns are raised about the natural sciences program at Cambridge, suggesting it requires studying multiple sciences, which some find undesirable.
  • A participant clarifies that Cambridge allows specialization within the natural sciences, and not all students have to take physics courses.
  • There are criticisms regarding the quality of teaching and course content at Oxbridge compared to other universities, with some arguing that the reputation of Oxbridge may not reflect the current educational experience.
  • Participants discuss the perceived poor student life at Oxbridge, citing high costs and exclusivity in social activities and accommodations.
  • One participant questions whether the educational benefits of attending Oxbridge outweigh the criticisms of student life and teaching quality.
  • Another participant shares their aspiration to attend Cambridge for graduate studies, indicating a desire for a specific academic experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions, with some favoring Oxbridge for its reputation and others criticizing it for various reasons. There is no consensus on the overall value of studying at these institutions versus others.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include differing personal experiences and perceptions of university life, as well as varying definitions of educational quality and student satisfaction. The discussion reflects subjective viewpoints rather than objective assessments.

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I guess the title of the thread sums up what I'm asking. Anyone wanting to study Physics at Oxford or Cambridge? :smile:
 
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No, I'd much rather stay here and attend a crappy university.

Why do you ask?

PL
 
Of course =)
 
Which semester? what level physics? study abroad? details. :)
 
I would personally rather not, because they do natural sciences instead of just pure physics, which means you have to do all three sciences even if you don't want to.
 
Bladibla said:
I would personally rather not, because they do natural sciences instead of just pure physics, which means you have to do all three sciences even if you don't want to.

That'd be Cambridge. You don't have to do all three at all, you study 'natural sciences' but choose which type of science you study. My girlfriend is doing 'natural sciences' at Cambridge, specialising in medical and veterinary science. She's not had a single physics lecture there, not even in first year.

Oxford offers straight physics.
 
brewnog said:
That'd be Cambridge. You don't have to do all three at all, you study 'natural sciences' but choose which type of science you study. My girlfriend is doing 'natural sciences' at Cambridge, specialising in medical and veterinary science. She's not had a single physics lecture there, not even in first year.

Oxford offers straight physics.

Ah..is that true? Still.. something about oxbridge just ticks me off a bit. I would rather go to another university in europe such as trinity (dublin) THEN go to other universities for post-graduate degrees.
 
Bladibla said:
Ah..is that true? Still.. something about oxbridge just ticks me off a bit. I would rather go to another university in europe such as trinity (dublin) THEN go to other universities for post-graduate degrees.


Yeah definitely. In many cases, the course content and quality of teaching at the Oxbridge universities compare extremely badly to a lot of other UK (and European, I suppose) universities. The student life is poor at Oxbridge too, in most respects.

The distinct advantage of an Oxbridge degree is reputation, but many employers now see past this and prefer graduates from universities which excel in whatever field they're recruiting into.
 
That's my dream...at least for graduate school...I'd love to get out of the U.S.! Repeating what others have written: Why do you ask?
 
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brewnog said:
Yeah definitely. In many cases, the course content and quality of teaching at the Oxbridge universities compare extremely badly to a lot of other UK (and European, I suppose) universities. The student life is poor at Oxbridge too, in most respects.

The distinct advantage of an Oxbridge degree is reputation, but many employers now see past this and prefer graduates from universities which excel in whatever field they're recruiting into.

Student life poor at oxbridge..? That's the first time i hear that. :bugeye:

If you don't mind asking, why is it like that?
 
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Bladibla said:
Student life poor at oxbridge..? That's the first time i hear that. :bugeye:

If you don't mind asking, why is it like that?


Well, obviously people tend to have a good time wherever they go.

However, all of my Oxbridge friends (without exception) complain that there are no good nightclubs, going out is incredibly expensive (beer at £3.50 per pint is common), and the sports clubs are extremely exclusive, cliquey and competitive. At many colleges, you have to buy all your food off the college at inflated prices, even if you don't want to eat it there every night. The accomodation prices are extortionate, and the public-school (yanks read private school) atmosphere is very unfriendly, and often quite condescending to state school students.
 
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brewnog said:
Well, obviously people tend to have a good time wherever they go.

However, all of my Oxbridge friends (without exception) complain that there are no good nightclubs, going out is incredibly expensive (beer at £3.50 per pint is common), and the sports clubs are extremely exclusive, cliquey and competitive. At many colleges, you have to buy all your food off the college at inflated prices, even if you don't want to eat it there every night. The accomodation prices are extortionate, and the public-school (yanks read private school) atmosphere is very unfriendly, and often quite condescending to state school students.

I see.. however, wouldn't it still be good for people who wants only education there?

What about the teaching qualities there? Why is it so bad?

Mind you, this is just for curiosity :biggrin:
 
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I'm not saying the teaching quality is terrible at the Oxbridge universities, just that it's not all what it's cracked up to be. It used to be the case that Oxbridge had the best lecturers and teaching staff in the world, which is partly what made them good universities and earned them their reputation. Now, however, while the quality of teaching is still good, it's only comparable to other good universities. In terms of education, you may as well be at any of the British 'Red Brick' universities as Oxbridge. The advantage of Oxbridge is not the education you receive, but having the university's name on your degree certificate.
 
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I've been trying hard to get an extension to my stay in grad school so I can go to Cambridge for a year and study part III maths, but it doesn't look like we're going to be able to work out a deal in time.
 

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