Adiabatic Definition and 470 Threads
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B Comparing energy released to the energy needed to compress a gas (game design scenario)
So I was looking at this post and was questioning the physics behind it. The jist is that the person in the post claimed that to compress 2600cm3 air enough so it expands with 1.7*1026 joules you'd need to actually apply 7.8*1028joules to compressing the air because energy is lost due to heat...- Ax_xiom
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- Adiabatic Air compression Compression
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Reversible, adiabatic expansion - Entropy Change
Answer for (d) is 0, answer for (e) is not. Firstly, I don't get why (e) is not zero. It says "the same expansion" so that expansion is reversible. Reversible processes -> entropy = 0? Secondly, part (e) seems to be the exact same as (d) so I'm not sure why it's different! Thanks in advance- laser1
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- Adiabatic Entropy Reversible
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The specific work done on an ideal gas during an adiabatic process in a piston-cylinder system
a) 0 b) (P2-P1)V c) Cp(T2-T1) d) Cv(T2-T1) < Ans I don't believe its B because if volume is constant, there's no work. I mostly don't understand why Cv is chosen instead of Cp.- joejoe121
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- Adiabatic Process Work
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B Adiabatic processes and temperatures
Do adiabatic processes maintain temperatures? That is, can temperatures remain constant during adiabatic processes?- Alan Todd
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- Adiabatic Temperature
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Correct Derivation of the Adiabatic Condition? (PV Diagram)
By the First Law, Definition of an Adiabatic Process, and Definition of Work: ##\Delta E = Q - W = - W = - P \Delta V ## (because ##Q = 0##) (Equation 1) By the Equipartition Theorem: ##\Delta E = \frac{3}{2} Nk \Delta T ## (Equation 2) By Setting Equation 1 equal to Equation 2 ## \Delta T...- PhDeezNutz
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- Adiabatic Derivation equations
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Where Did I Go Wrong in Proving Harmonic Motion in an Adiabatic Process?
TL;DR Summary: Problem said that the ball moves in a harmonic motion and asked to prove it. The process is adiabatic Problem said that the ball moves in a harmonic motion and asked to prove it. The process is adiabatic. I did the development, but at certain point I'm having a problem. The...- pedrovisk
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- Adiabatic Harmonic Motion
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Conceptual misunderstanding in applying formula for work done in adiabatic compression
I was trying to solve a JEE ADVANCED 2020 paper 1 question 13 on thermodynamics. I attempted the problem and got a different answer than they did. I did it in a different way, but I can't find a mistake in both methods. So now I am stuck. I think the problem is in the first step probably using...- physicsissohard
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- Adiabatic Formula Work
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I Question about the Zeroth law of thermodynamics and Equlibrium
I know that if 2 systems A and B are in equilibrium their coordinates doesn't change. Systems are not complicated and be fully described using two separated coordinates X and Y. What will happen if I seprate them using an adiabatic wall? Their coordinates start to change but I cannot...- MatinSAR
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- Adiabatic Equilibrium Systems
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I Why Use Constant Volume for This Adiabatic Equation?
Why is this equation (red sign) written in constant volume and not in constant pressure?- abdossamad2003
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- Adiabatic equation
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I Relation between change of pressure and temperature in adiabatic process
In case of adiabatic process, we all know that the relation between temperature and pressure and that's given below: P. T(γ/(1-γ)) = Const. therefore, P = Const. T(γ/(γ - 1)) or, ΔP = Const. (γ/(γ - 1)).ΔT(1/(γ - 1)) It's just an attempt to find out the relation. Don't know how much correct I... -
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Finding ##U## given information about an adiabatic process (Callen)
I was unable show that ##PV^k## must indeed equal some function of the entropy, ##g(S)##; maybe doing so would make things easier? I proceeded as below. If we assume (as is almost surely intended by Callen) that in the given adiabatic (##d Q = 0##) process we are taking ##N## as constant and...- EE18
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Information Process quasistatic Thermodyamics
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I Adiabatic expansion work far exceeds isobaric of same volume, why?
Using the adiabatic process formula, I've calculated the change in volume for a volume of gas with an initial pressure of 10 psig expanding to 0 psig. The initial volume is 100 cubic inches and the expanded volume is 144.9. This is a difference of 44.9. The total work done ends up being about...- MysticDream
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic expansion Expansion Volume Work
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- Forum: Thermodynamics
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A Adiabatic theorem for a 3 level system
Hello! If I have a 2 level system, with the energy splitting between the 2 levels ##\omega_{12}## and an external perturbation characterized by a frequency ##\omega_P##, if ##\omega_{12}>>\omega_P## I can use the adiabatic approximation, and assume that the initial state of the system changes...- Malamala
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- Adiabatic System Theorem
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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A Induced dipole moment (adiabatic) following the rotating E-field
Hello! Assume I have a 2 level system, where the 2 levels have opposite parity. If I apply an electric field, I will get an induced dipole moment. For now I want to keep it general, so the induced dipole moment can be very large, too. Let's say that I start rotating this electric field in the...- BillKet
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- Adiabatic Dipole Dipole moment E-field Induced Moment Rotating
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Help Calculate Work Done in Adiabatic Process & Fill Table
(picture of diagram below)So the task goes like this: gas is ideal. Process 3->1 s adiabatic and in process 1->2 work done is 1200J. Fill the table. I don't know how to calculate work done in an adiabatic process because p2 and V2 are not given and I don't know gama(Cp/Cv). I know that deltaU...- Callmelucky
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Process Table Work Work done
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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B Question regarding using the expression $dE_{int}$=nC_vdT$
The first law of Thermodynamics states that the change in Internal energy is equal to the sum of Heat gained or lost by the system and work done by the system or on the system . $dE=Q-W$...(1). In an Adiabatic process ,Q=0 . Therefore $dE=-W$ . Now...- Harikesh_33
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- Adiabatic Expression Themodynamics
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- Forum: Thermodynamics
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Work done in adiabatic compression
The equation I know for adiabatic work is W = P1V1((V1/V2)ϒ-1 - 1))/ϒ-1, but this involves ϒ, but I can use ϒ = Cp/Cv = Cv+R/Cv = 1 + Cv/R, does this seem correct? But I still have a P1- so_gr_lo
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic compression Compression Work Work done
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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New volume of balloon after adiabatic expansion
Result My attempt- so_gr_lo
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic expansion Balloon Expansion Volume
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Adiabatic expansion with temperature-dependent gamma
The statement does not say whether the process is reversible or not, but I suppose the only way to solve the problem is by thinking it actually is. I tried using the formula for reversible adiabatic processes, i.e. PVγ = constant. First, I calculated the initial volume with the ideal gas law...- usrename
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic expansion Expansion Gamma Thermodynamics
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Mixing Newton's law with Adiabatic Process
I have attached an image showing the perimeters of the problem. I have included what I think is the solution, could someone please take a look and tell me if I am on the correct path, in the solution I am taking Joules as a common term to attempt to solve the question. The gas I have used is N...- TonyCross
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Law Mixing Newton's law Process
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Adiabatic Approximation for Infinite Square Well
I took the w derivative of the wave function and got the following. Also w is a function of time, I just didn't notate it for brevity: $$-\frac{\sqrt{2}n\pi x}{w^{3/2}}cos(\frac{n\pi}{w}x) - \frac{1}{\sqrt{2w^3}}sin^2(\frac{n\pi}{w}x)$$ Then I multiplied the complex conjugate of the wave...- rmiller70015
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- Adiabatic Approximation Infinite Infinite square well Square Square well
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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How to calculate initial pressure and temperature - adiabatic process
Im confused on working backwards so to speak to find adiabatic work. To find work for this adiabatic process, I either need to know the change in temperature OR the initial pressure (I think?). The issue is that I don't know either the initial temperature nor the initial pressure so I am not...- JoeyBob
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Initial Pressure Process Temperature
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When do formulas for adiabatic processes apply?
In this problem, the method used to solve the question is to equate pdV with change in internal energy. This implies an adiabatic process as Q = 0? (not sure about this claim) However, why is it not correct to simply apply the PV^ϒ = constant formula? Thank you.- phantomvommand
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- Adiabatic Apply Formulas Thermodynamics Thermodynamics first law
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Change in entropy of an irreversible adiabatic process
I have been able to get everything except entropy. I know it's not zero. I know I have to find a reversible path to calculate it, but keep coming up with strange values so I don't think I'm doing it correctly. can I do CpdT/T + CvdT/T = ds? I am having trouble calculating my P2 (I know my final...- gjb24mrspotts
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Change Entropy Irreversible Process
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Isothermal and adiabatic air compression -- different expressions
Hi all, For an Isothermal compression process of air in a vessel with constant volume, I found the following expressions and and The first two give the same result, meanwhile the third gives another solution and I don't know why. For adiabatic compression I found these two expression which...- Ameen1985
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- Adiabatic Air Air compression Compression Expressions Isothermal Thermodaynamics
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- Forum: Thermodynamics
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Problem involving an adiabatic process
in this textbook : http://www.fulviofrisone.com/attachments/article/486/Huang,%20Kerson%20-%201987%20-%20Statistical%20Mechanics%202Ed%20(Wiley)(T)(506S).pdf ;page 20 I don't understand about Eq 1.11 come to 1.12 ? I know dU = U_V dT + U_T dV dQ = dU + p dV put dU into dQ. So dQ = U_V dT...- Another
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Process
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Thermodynamics and adiabatic lines -- Prove this statement
I tried by one way, seems ok and makes sense, but i am not sure if it is valid yet. $$P_{a} = c_{a}V_{a}^{(-\gamma_{a})}$$ $$P_{b} = c_{b}V_{b}^{(-\gamma_{b})}$$ $$(Pa,va = Pb,vb)$$ $$\frac{c_{a}}{c_{b}} =\frac{[V_{b}^{-\gamma_{b}}]}{[V_{a}^{-\gamma_{a}}]} = V^{-\gamma_{b}+\gamma{a}}$$ Now this...- LCSphysicist
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- Adiabatic Lines Thermodynamics
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Adiabatic Process: Solving Problems with Formulas & Methods
Could I have help with what formulas or method that is required in order to solve the problem?- Kajan thana
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Process
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- Forum: Mechanical Engineering
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Specific work done by an adiabatic & reversible compressor on air
Hi, A quick question on a conundrum I seem to have encountered. My main question is: why is it wrong to use the formula above instead of the SFEE approach? My approach: Use the formula: $$ w = \frac{R}{1-n} (T_2 - T_1) $$ From the data book, ## R = 0.287 ## kJ/kg K and ## n = \gamma = 1.4 ##...- Master1022
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- Adiabatic Air Compressor Reversible Specific Work Work done
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Adiabatic expansion of a piston in a cylinder filled with ideal gas
I was puzzling over how to solve this and finally peeked at the solution. They used the relevant equation above. I disagree with this though. The problem specifically says “the piston is allowed to slide freely!” This means that we don’t let it happen slowly. So then we are not in...- Hiero
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic expansion Cylinder Expansion Gas Ideal gas Piston
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Adiabatic Process (Poisson’s equations)
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Process
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Reversible processes need to be ONLY isothermal or adiabatic?
My question is: Do ALL the reversible process need to be composed of ONLY isothermal and adiabatic transformations? Carnot cycle satisfy this, but what other cycle would be also reversible? I know that for a process to be reverisble it has to be almost-static, have no dissipative force, and no...- jaumzaum
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- Adiabatic Isothermal Reversible Reversible processes
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Finding the efficiency of an ideal gas with adiabatic exponent 'γ'
Here is what I did : work done in going from A to C, W1 = 2nRToln(2) (isothermal process) work done in going from C to B, W1 = pΔV = nRΔT = -nRTo (isobaric process) work done in going from B to A, W3 = 0 (isochoric process) so, total work done = W1 + W2 + W3...- PhysicsEnthusiast123
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- Adiabatic Efficiency Exponent Gas Homework Ideal gas Thermodynamcics
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Gas in a syringe being compressed - thermodynamic processes
1. Adiabatic compression (When compressed quickly, there is no heat flow to the environment Q=0) Isochoric with heat loss (The syringe is still compressed, there should be no change in volume) Adiabatic expansion (When the syringe is released, there is work done only) Isochoric with heat gain...- domingoleung
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- Adiabatic Compressed Gas Isothermal Syringe Thermodyamics Thermodynamic
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Why Does Adiabatic Compression Yield a Negative Work Calculation?
This is a relatively simple problem, but I'm not getting the right answer. For adiabatic compression, work on gas is positive, since work on gas = ΔEth and the adiabatic process moves from a lower isotherm to a higher one. Integrating for work gives: pV * (Vf(1 - gamma) - Vi(1 -...- ewang
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic compression Compression
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A Adiabatic Compressible Flow in a Converging Duct
For compressible flow in a duct, mass conservation combined with reversibility (no entropy change) implies $$(1-\frac{u^2}{c^2})\frac{du}{u} = -\frac{dA}{A}$$ where u is the flow velocity of the gas, c is the speed of sound in the gas, and A is the area of the duct. I am assuming a calorically...- Twigg
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- Adiabatic Compressible Compressible flow Converging Flow
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Feynman problem 39-2: Calculations for an adiabatic process
I'm not sure that this is an adiabatic process. As far as i can read, it is adiabatic if no HEAT or ENERGY is added. But pumping in molecules that are a non-zero temperature is an addition of energy, no? Anyway - my solution with the assumption of an adiabatic process. (skipping units for...- aa_o
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Calculations Feynman Process
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Compression in an adiabatic enclosure
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Temperature change in a gas expansion
1- ##\delta P_V =(\frac{\partial P}{\partial T} )_V \delta T_V## 2-##\delta V =(\frac{\partial V}{\partial T})_P \delta T+(\frac{\partial V}{\partial P})_T \delta P## so ##C_v \delta T=-P\delta V=-P((\frac{\partial V}{\partial T})_P \delta T+(\frac{\partial V}{\partial P})_T \delta P)## I can...- yamata1
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- Adiabatic Change Expansion Gas Gas expansion Tempeature Temperature Temperature change Thermo
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I Does the Euler method give a better insight into adiabatic processess?
I verified with others the equation below is an Euler method as well with ##a## can be any value such that it give the same ##\frac{dE}{dv}=-1.4\frac{p}{v}## but with ##a## other than one, it have no meaning in physics. For anyone that already understand Euler method can omit the part i have...- chuakoktong
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- Adiabatic Euler Euler method Insight Method
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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I Solving Adiabatic Process for Two Compartments
I tried this question and this the answer given in the book. A cylinder is close at both ends and has insulating walls. It is divided into two compartments by a perfectly insulating partition that is perpendicular to the axis of the cylinder. Each compartment contains 1.00 mol of oxygen, which...- chuakoktong
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Process
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Moving an adiabatic partition in an adiabatic container
The actual data for the problem and my (and my friend's) attempt at a solution are in the attached file. In a nutshell, this is what happened. I obtained a solution based on the fact that the system is isolated. Thus the initially hot gas moves the partition doing work onto the initially cold...- FranzDiCoccio
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Container Ideal gas Partition
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Adiabatic approximation in the derivation of the speed of sound
The speed of sound in a gas at temperature T is given to be ## v=\sqrt{\frac{\gamma RT}{M}}##, where ##\gamma## is the adiabatic exponent, R is the gas constant and M is the molar mass of the gas. In deriving this expression, we assumed that the compression and expansion processes were so fast...- Terry Bing
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Approximation Derivation Sound Speed Speed of sound Thermodynamics
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Adiabatic Process: Change Temp w/o Exchange of Heat
How is to possible to change the temperature without exchange of heat? Could you please give me an example? I know it is possible to keep the temperature constant while there is exchange of heat. This is possible when the heat supplied is consumed/lost to the surrounding. But how is it... -
Isothermal, isobaric and adiabatic
(i) In this case the gas is expanding therefore its volume will increase and the pressure will drop. As volume gets bigger particles have more space to move around. Isobaric is curve (1-2). It’s a horizontal line because here the pressure is constant. Isothermal is curve (1-3) temp is constant...- Sabra_a
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- Adiabatic Isothermal
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How Do Coupled Adiabatic Pendula Behave?
Homework Statement: An adiabatic pendulum (right) is coupled via a spring with spring contant κ to a normal non-variable pendulum. The pendula have equal mass m and, initially, equal length l . The right pendulum is adiabatically pulled up with frequency ω(t) 1. Derive the equations of motion...- Hamsi
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- Adiabatic Coupled Pendulum
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Adiabatic process in statistical mechanics
Why is a thermally isolated process that occurs sufficiently slow is necessarily adiabatic and not just reversible process ? Here I mean that the definition of adiabatic process is no change in the entropy of the subsystem, and a reversible process is define by no change of the total entropy of... -
Final temperature of an adiabatic process between two reservoirs
*Here, no mention of these reservoirs being a gas, so I'm not sure if I can use the PV=nRT or the P*V^(gamma)=K equation. SO I am left with only the 1st law. If I can write dQ1( going out from object 1)= Cp (indep of T)*(Tf-T1) dQ2(coming into the object 2)= Cp*(T2-Tf)...- Baibhab Bose
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Constant pressure Final Final temperature Process Temperature Thermodyamics
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Show that ##pV^\gamma## is a constant for an adiabatic process
Now, ## \displaystyle dQ=\left(\frac{\partial Q}{\partial p}\right)_V dp+\left(\frac{\partial Q}{\partial V}\right)_p dV## In an adiabatic change, ##dQ=0##. So, ## \displaystyle\left(\frac{\partial Q}{\partial p}\right)_V dp+\left(\frac{\partial Q}{\partial V}\right)_p dV=0## Using (3) and...- alexmahone
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic process Constant Process
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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I How Do You Calculate Initial Pressure and Final Volume in Adiabatic Expansion?
I have a compressed pure gas at a specific temperature and volume. (T1, V1) It suddenly (adiabatically) expands until it's at ambient pressure and a specific temperature. (P2, T2). Given: T1, V1, T2, and P2, I want to find P1 and V2. There's a great example in wikipedia which is almost...- JeffEvarts
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- Adiabatic Adiabatic expansion Expansion Ideal gas Pressure Temperature Volume
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- Forum: Classical Physics