Ensemble Definition and 105 Threads
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Must ensembles be homogeneous?
An ensemble is a collection of systems, all prepared in the same way. Does this mean that all the systems are in the same state? I have seen some authors create ensembles where 30% of the systems are in a state, s, and 70% of the systems are in a state, t . As far as measurements go, this...- normvcr
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- ensemble homogeneous mixed
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Grand Canonical Ensemble: N operator problem
I have a problem in understanding the quantum operators in grand canonical ensemble. The grand partition function is the trace of the operator: e^{\beta(\mu N-H)} (N is the operator Number of particle) and the trace is taken on the extended phase space: \Gamma_{es}= \Gamma_1 \times \Gamma_2...- Xemnas92
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Operator
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Derivation of fluctuations in canonical ensemble
Homework Statement Statistical Mechanics by Pathria. Problem 3.1 Homework Equations (1) <(△nr)2>=<nr2>-<nr>2=(wrd/dwr)(wrd/dwr)lnΓ, for all wr=1 How to derive above equation from these equations? <nr>=wrd/dwr(lnΓ), for all wr=1 <nr2>=(1/Γ)(wrd/dwr)(wrd/dwr)Γ, for all wr=1 (2) Also, if you...- Fliers
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- Canonical ensemble Derivation Ensemble Fluctuations
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Entropy of canonical ensemble - invariant wrt energy shift?
I have a short question which I have been discussing with a fellow student and a professor. The question (which is not a homework question!), is as follows: If you shift all the energies E_i \to E_i + E_0 (thus also shifting the mean energy U \to U + E_0), does the entropy of the system remain...- BjarkeTN
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Entropy Invariant Shift
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- Forum: Thermodynamics
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Free energy changes in a canonical ensemble
I have a question that has puzzled me during the last couple of days. Suppose that there is a system (e.g. a small box filled with gas) that is connected to a heat bath (much larger than the system) at a constant temperature T. The studied system and the heat bath are thought to be isolated from...- errai
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Free energy
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Can someone explain the ignorance ensemble theory
I think I understand it but I prefer a response from a sci advisor rather than whatever someone put up on wikipedia. I also searched for it here but I didnt find a proper explanation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.- batmanandjoker
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- Ensemble Explain Ignorance Theory
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Diatomic Gas, Grand Canonical Ensemble
Homework Statement Part (a): Using grand canonical distribution, show ideal gas law ##P = nkT## holds, where ##n = \frac{\overline{N}}{V}##. Part (b): Find chemical potential of diatomic classical ideal gas in terms of ##P## and ##T##. The rotational levels are excited, but not the...- unscientific
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Gas
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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What is the Concept of Ensemble in Statistical Mechanics?
What is ensemble? I've read about this in blundell's book, and It is said that it's used to control microscopic properties. I don't understand this statement. Somebody please help me ..- gema
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- Ensemble
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Lee Smolin Real Ensemble I. questions
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1104.2822.pdf "Abstract: A new ensemble interpretation of quantum mechanics is proposed according to which the ensemble associated to a quantum state really exists: it is the ensemble of all the systems in the same quantum state in the universe. Individual systems within...- kye
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- Ensemble
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Micro-canonical Ensemble of Ideal Bose Gas
Hi, can I know why the number of partitions separating different states have to be taken into account for the derivation of number of states in an ideal Bose Gas but not in the Fermi Gas? What is the physical significance of this "partition"? In what ways can they vary?- Ang Han Wei
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- Ensemble Gas
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Interpretations vs. Non-Interpretations (e.g. Ensemble)
Recall the famous "Shut up and calculate interpretation". Should it be called an interpretation? The content of the interpretation is "don't interpret quantum mechanics". I argue that for certain purposes it would make sense to distinguish between interpretations (like Many Worlds and...- Jolb
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- Ensemble Interpretations
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- Forum: Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
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Bose-Einstein condensation in the canonical ensemble
Hello guys, I would really need some help on the following problem. Consider a non-interacting & non-relativistic bosonic field at finite temperature. We are all aware of the fact that such a statistical system is well described by the grand-canonical ensemble in the limit N→∞. However...- JK423
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- Bose-einstein Canonical ensemble Condensation Ensemble
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- Forum: Atomic and Condensed Matter
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Canonical ensemble, entropy of a classical gas
Homework Statement I have the equation Z=1/N!h3N∫∫d3qid3pie-βH(q,p) How can I get the entropy from this equation assuming a classical gas of N identical, noninteracting atoms inside a volume V in equilibrium at T where it has an internal degree of freedom with energies 0 and ε What...- hansbahia
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- Canonical ensemble Classical Ensemble Entropy Gas
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Is the Canonical Ensemble Rule Derived Ad Hoc in Statistical Mechanics?
In Statistical Mechanics, the key step in the derivation of the Canonical Ensemble is that the probability of S being in the m-th state, P_m , is proportional to the corresponding number of microstates available to the reservoir when S is in the m-th state. That is P_m=c\Omega(E_0-E_m), where...- intervoxel
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- Canonical ensemble Derivation Ensemble
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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About Ensemble Average for gas molecules(classical mechanics regime)
I have some question about Ensemble Average. The macroscopic variable of fluid is average of microscopic variable of gas molecule. And if time average is same with spatial average I know as it called edgodic. My question is that if two different microscopic variables which have same...- Noh-hoon Lee
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- Average Ensemble Gas Mechanics
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- Forum: Mechanics
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Average Energy of Grand Canonical Ensemble
Hello, The entropy of the Grand Canonical Ensemble (GCE) is: S = KB ln ZG + (\bar{E}/T) - μo\bar{N}/T Helmholtz function is: F = \bar{E} - TS = \bar{E} - TKB ln ZG - \bar{E} + μo\bar{N} = -TKB ln ZG + μo\bar{N} But \partialF/\partialT = -S (From thermodynamics). Then...- phys_student1
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- Average average energy Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble
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- Forum: Other Physics Topics
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Maximizing Gibbs Entropy in Canonical Ensemble
Hey, Here is the problem: The method by which we solve is by Langrange Multipliers, and so I believe I found the derivative of f with respects to P(i) but I have two quantities I'm sure what they equal: Summations over i=1 to N : Ʃln(P(i)) and ƩE(i) Thanks for any help, S- Sekonda
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Entropy Gibbs
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Non-sensical negative entropy? (grand canonical ensemble)
Hello, I was investigating a system with N indistinguishable particles, each of which can have an energy \pm \epsilon, and using the grand canonical ensemble, i.e. \Xi = \sum_{N=0}^{\infty} e^{\beta \mu N} Z_N. But my entropy formula is S = \left( \textrm{a couple of $\sim N $ positive...- nonequilibrium
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Entropy Negative
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- Forum: Thermodynamics
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Ballentine's Ensemble Interpretation Of QM
Hi Guys I have recently been reacquainting myself with Ballantines - Quantum Mechanics - A Modern Development. He is pretty big on the Ensemble interpretation, and I must admit I am rather attracted to it as well - none of this collapse of a wave function stuff, many worlds etc. He also makes...- bhobba
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- Ensemble Interpretation Qm
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- Forum: Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
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What's the difference between a fock state and a mixed ensemble?
I have trouble distinguishing the two, what's the physical difference between a fock state|p1;p2> and a mixed ensemble described by density matrix 0.5|p1><p1|+0.5|p2><p2|?- kof9595995
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- Difference Ensemble Mixed State
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Microcanonical vs canonical vs grand canonical ensemble
Can somebody explain to me the differences between the ensembles, and how does this differences refer to experiment? I know that: Microcanonical ensemble is a concept used to describe the thermodynamic properties of an isolated system. Possible states of the system have the same energy and...- gizzmo
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Closed form expression for the partition function Z using the Canonical Ensemble
Homework Statement I'm looking for a closed form expression for the partition function Z using the Canonical Ensemble Homework Equations epsilon_j - epsilon_j-1 = delta e Z = Sum notation(j=0...N) e^(-beta*j*delta e) beta = 1/(k_B*T) t = (k_B*T)/delta e N is the number of excited...- haitrungdo82
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- Canonical ensemble Closed Ensemble Expression Form Function Partition Partition function
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Can a Super Grand Canonical Ensemble Exist?
Can we take the grand canonical ensemble and then switch the roles of the thermodynamic conjugate variable pair (P, V) making P (pressure) the parameter and V (volume) the variable and allowing it to fluctuate in the system. The macrostate would then be defined by the pressure temperature and...- qbslug
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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- Forum: Other Physics Topics
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On the notion of pressure in the canonical ensemble
Hi folks, since the volume V is fixed in a canonical ensemble I'm a bit confused about the fact, that the pressure is calculated as the derivation of the internal energy U with respect to the volume V. Sure, P = dU/dV comes from dU = dQ + dW = tdS - pdV + ... But what does it mean to derivate... -
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Microcanonical ensemble, density operator
hi, usually the density operator for the microcanonical ensemble is given by \rho = \sum_n p_n|n><n| where |n> are energy eigenstates and p_n is the probability that our system is in this state. p_n = const. if the energy corresponding to |n> is in the energy inteval (E,E+∆E)...- Derivator
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- Density Density operator Ensemble Microcanonical ensemble Operator
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Toy model, contextual particles/non-contextual ensemble
I was trying to get answer to question if it's possible to construct non-contextual ensemble from contextual particles. As a result I constructed this simple toy model in excel. It is using kind of "quantum memory" as polarizer. "Quantum memory" of polarizer evolves coherently with horizontal...- zonde
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- Ensemble Model
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Solving an Ensemble of Particles Wave Function Problem
b]1. Homework Statement [/b] I have the soloution to this question, but am confused as to what has been done between each step between lines 2,3,4. Can anyone explain how they have been simplified (espicially what happened to the operator) and what the value of the intergral is? I think I am...- leoflindall
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- Ensemble Function Particles Wave Wave function
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Energy Fluctuations in Canonical Ensemble
Homework Statement In deriving <E2>-<E>2 starting from <E>=U=sum(Eiexp(-beta Ei))/sum(exp(-beta Ei). the taking derivative of U with respect to beta, the book always notes E (thus Volume) is held constant. what i am trying to do is taking the derivative of U with respect to beta or T...- chiaki
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Fluctuations
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Confusion about preparing ensemble of particles and no-cloning theorem
To get a distribution of some dynamic variable of a wavefunction, we actually need to prepare an ensemble of particles, in which all the particles have the same wavefunction, right? And no-cloning theorem states that it's impossible to copy an unknown quantum state. So is this a contradiction?...- kof9595995
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- Confusion Ensemble Particles Theorem
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Statistical mechanics: energy variance of ensemble
I posted this once already without seeing the rule that HW questions must go here--sorry :redface: So, the problem: I'm really lost on where to get started here. It's a two state system, one with energy 0 and the other with energy ε. I already have ensemble average, <E>, found to be: ε / (e^βε...- Dawei
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- Energy Ensemble Mechanics Statistical Statistical mechanics Variance
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Statistical mechanics: energy variance of ensemble
I'm really lost on where to get started here. It's a two state system, one with energy 0 and the other with energy ε. I already have ensemble average, <E>, found to be: ε / (e^βε + 1) , where β is thermodynamic beta, 1/KbT. How do I convert this to an expression for the variance of the...- Dawei
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- Energy Ensemble Mechanics Statistical Statistical mechanics Variance
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- Forum: Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
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Does anyone actually use the term ensemble interpretation ?
Does anyone actually use the term "ensemble interpretation"? People have been asking questions about the "ensemble interpretation" here lately. It's mentioned on the Wikipedia page "interpretations of quantum mechanics" and has its own page. But is that term actually used in books and articles...- Fredrik
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- Ensemble Interpretation Term
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- Forum: Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
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Interatomic forces in an ensemble via vector analysis
Hi all, My question is about obtaining the force between two particular atoms in an ensemble. Please excuse my ignorance on this topic. I can calculate all the forces in the system by the Hellmann–Feynman theorem using any quantum mechanical code. This is the print out from such a code...- ewan_71
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- Analysis Ensemble Forces Vector Vector analysis
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- Forum: Atomic and Condensed Matter
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Can someone elaborate on the ensemble interpretation for me?
My understanding of this interpretation is that (in the context of the electron double slit experiment) the experiment is one particular outcome of an ensemble of equally prepared experiments. This explains the statistical nature of QM. But how does this explain the interference pattern...- superpaul3000
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- Ensemble Interpretation
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- Forum: Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
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Ensemble average in quantum computing
In the last step to get result from a quantum computer, measurement is required to collapse the quantum state. This can be done by the measuring a large ensemble average of same computed result. One realization I know is to use NMR to measure billions of spin. So, what is the minimum number of...- morphemera
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- Average Computing Ensemble Quantum Quantum computing
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Ensemble Avg, Statistical Mechanics
Given a macro-state M of a system, let S denote the potion of the phase space that has the macro-state M. A micro-canonical ensemble is one in which the probability of finding the micro-state in any part of S is equally likely (the density function is constant over S). In Pathria's... -
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Canonical Ensemble: Partition Function & Free Energy
Is it true that partition function for canonical ensemble is Z=\sum_{\{states j\}}e^{-\beta E_j}=e^{-\beta F} where F is Helmholtz free energy?- Petar Mali
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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The ensemble interpretation of QM
The ensemble interpretation of QM essentially ignores the wave function collapse, and apparently decoherence as well, by stating that only the statistical distributions within ensembles of systems matter (each system being in just one state). My questions are: Does the preparation of...- SW VandeCarr
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- Ensemble Interpretation Qm
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- Forum: Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
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Ideal 2-D Gas and Micro-Canonical Ensemble
Homework Statement 1.a. analyze an ideal gas in a two dimensional world using micro-canonical ensemble. Specifically, find the equation of state (surface tension and area will replace pressure and volume) and also the energy as a function of temperature. b. modify the equation to create a “van...- Fourier mn
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- Ensemble Gas
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Ideal gas in the microcanonical ensemble - a subtle point?
Hi all, I was brushing up on statistical ensembles, and I found something apparently weird in microcanonical treatment of the ideal "classical" gas. I'm mainly following K. Huang's Statistical Mechanics. So there's a first approach to the problem in which the MC entropy is evaluated via an...- FranzDiCoccio
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- Ensemble Gas Ideal gas Microcanonical ensemble Point
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Canonical Ensemble Homework: Equal Probabilities Postulate
Homework Statement In the canonical ensemble, the probability that a system is in state r is given by P_i = \frac{g_i \exp (-\beta E_i)}{\sum_i g_i \exp( -\beta E_i)} where g_i is the multiplicity of state i. This is confusing me because I thought P_i = \frac{g_i}{\sum_i g_i} = states...- ehrenfest
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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How Does the Grand Canonical Ensemble Determine Site Atom Occupancy?
Homework Statement Grand Canonical ensemble problem- A surface of N sites that can have 0,1,2 atoms. It costs no energy to adsorb an atom. Grand canonical problem therefore in contact with particle reservoir. Assume \mu chem potentiol and temp T. What is probability for site to be empty,1,or 2...- j93
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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Why are 3 states sufficient to describe a statistical ensemble?
Hello! I have a question arising from my course in statistical physics: Describing microcanonical, canonical and grandcanonical ensemble you take three variables (like E,V,N for microncanonical) and get the "rest" from derivatives of the free energies. Is there a deeper meaning why there are...- blue2script
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- Ensemble States Statistical
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Microcanonical ensemble with four spin 1
Four spin1 particles are rigidly fixed at four corners of a square. 1. What will be the entropy. 2. A field is now applied that produces an energy difference between m=0 and m=1,-1 states of each of each particle. Take m=0 as the ground state and find the free energy at temperature T. 3. Find...- souvik.manoj
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- Ensemble Microcanonical ensemble Spin
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Derivation of Grand Canonical Ensemble from scratch?
I've been studying and thinking about statistical physics for a couple days now... and what bothers me is the grand canonical partition function. Namely that for a system with fixed chemical potential and energy \epsilon_i the probability of having N_i particle in that state is proportional to...- tim_lou
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- Canonical ensemble Derivation Ensemble scratch
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Microcanonical ensemble => constant entropy?
Homework Statement In a microcanonical ensemble is entropy constant? Since there is only one macrostate of energy. The Attempt at a Solution I think so.- pivoxa15
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- Constant Ensemble Entropy Microcanonical ensemble
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Minimalist ensemble interpretation
im a bit confused about which interpretation is experimentally favored,wave function collapse or the 'minimalist ensemble interpretation (ala L.E Ballentine' (as Doc Al wrote somewhere)?All the older literature talks about 'reduction of wave packet' but reading Ballentine has left me confused.- xboy
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- Ensemble Interpretation
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- Forum: Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
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Please help me to derive canonical ensemble
Hey folks, I really need help setting up a canonical ensemble. I am using the einstein model and have an energy: E_\nu=A + \sum_{i=1}^{2N} \hbar\omega n_i+\sum_{j=1}^{N} \hbarh\omega n_j where A is some constant. Now, I need to build the partition function which I 'think' looks like...- romeo6
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- Canonical ensemble Derive Ensemble
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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How to Write a Canonical Ensemble for a System Using the Einstein Model
Hi there, I have a system with the following energy using the einstein model: E_\nu=\sum_{i=1}^{2N} h\omega n_i+\sum_{j=1}^{N} h\omega n_j I need to set up a canonical ensemble for this. How would I write the partition function please?- romeo6
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Gibbsian Ensemble: Kerson & Huang Explained
Hi, I'm taking a course in Stat Mach using Kerson and Huang's Statistical Mechanics book. I am quite confused with their treatment of a Gibbsian Ensemble. They say imagine an infinite copies of the same system whose state can be represented by a point in phase space. Then \rho (p,q,t) =...- emob2p
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- Ensemble
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- Forum: Classical Physics