Measurable Definition and 123 Threads
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I ##L^2## - space equivalence classes and norm
##L^2##-space is defined as equivalence classes on the set ##\mathcal L^2## of squared integrable measurable functions ##f## defined on the measure space ##(\Omega, \mathcal A, \mu)##. The equivalence relation ##\sim## is: ##f \sim g## iff ##f=g## almost everywhere (a.e.). Prove that the above... -
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I Are slices of measurable functions measurable?
I decided to go through @psie's measure theory notes to refresh myself since it's been a while. I got to the theorem on page 60 which I will attempt to summarize my confusion as just this statement If X and Y are measure spaces and ##f:X\times Y\to \mathbb{C}## is measurable then the function...- Office_Shredder
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- Functions Measurable Measure
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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MHB Measurable Functions .... Lindstrom, Proposition 7.3.7 .... ....
I am reading Tom L. Lindstrom's book: Spaces: An Introduction to Real Analysis ... and I am focused on Chapter 7: Measure and Integration ... I need help with the proof of Proposition 7.3.7 ... Proposition 7.3.7 and its proof read as follows: In the above proof by Lindstrom we read the...- Math Amateur
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- Functions Measurable
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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I Measurable Functions .... Lindstrom, Proposition 7.3.7 .... ....
I am reading Tom L. Lindstrom's book: Spaces: An Introduction to Real Analysis ... and I am focused on Chapter 7: Measure and Integration ... I need help with the proof of Proposition 7.3.7 ... Proposition 7.3.7 and its proof read as follows: In the above proof by Lindstrom we read the...- Math Amateur
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- Functions Measurable
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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A Measurements and electroweak gauge invariance/transformations
Most gauge transformations in the standard model are easy to see are measurement invariant. Coordinate transformations, SU(3) quark colours, U(1) phase rotations for charged particles all result in no measurable changes. But how does this work for SU(2) rotations in electroweak theory, where...- Michael Price
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- Electrons Electroweak Gauge Gauge invariance Measurable Measurements Neutrino
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B Is Uncertainty in Quantum Mechanics a Fundamental Limit or a Measurement Issue?
I'm a hobbyist physicist and I just started studying QM through watching Leonard Susskind's lectures on the Stanford Youtube channel. I get the idea of it being impossible to precisely know both a subatomic particle's position and momentum, but is this actually a physical limitation? Or is it...- Kevin Chieppo
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- Measurable Physical Qm Quantum mechanics Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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I Measuring Charge & Angular Momentum in Black Holes
It is stated that a Black hole has only mass, angular momentum and charge for properties, but since it is black ie no light escapes its event horizon and charge E/M is related (same speed) as light (photons), how can unbalanced charge be detected? And since many Black holes have electron...- CalcNerd
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- Black hole Charge Hole Measurable
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Need a machine to impart measurable charge (Coulombs) at will
Hi there, Does anyone know of a machine/equipment/technology, etc. that allows a person to give charges (Coulombs) to conductors in a measurable way? I've rubbed a ton of plastic rods with fur but that's not too measurable. The Van De Graaff is overkill or it if I try to connect alligator clips...- Albertgauss
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- Charge Coulombs Machine Measurable
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- Forum: Electrical Engineering
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MHB Measure Theory - Existence of Fsigma set contained in measurable set
Problem: Let $E$ have finite outer measure. Show that $E$ is measurable if and only if there is a $F_\sigma$ set $F \subset E$ with $m^*\left(F\right)=m^*\left(E\right)$. Proof: "$\leftarrow$" To Show: $E=K\cup N$ where $K$ is $F_\sigma$ and $m^*(N)=m(N)=0$. By assumption, $\exists F$, and...- joypav
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- Existence Measurable Measure Measure theory Set Theory
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A How to prove that cuboids are Lebesgue measurable?
Hello, how do I have to start to prove that cuboids are measurable in the context of the Lebesgue measure? Best wishes Maxi- Maxi1995
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- Measurable
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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Measurable consequences of entropy of mixing
Most textbooks include an example of entropy of mixing that involves removing a partition between two (in principle) distinguishable gases, and compare this to the case where the two gases are indistinguishable. What I’ve not yet been able to figure out is what the consequences of this...- crossword.bob
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- Entropy Measurable Mixing Thermodyamics
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- Forum: Thermodynamics
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Sup. and Lim. Sup. are Measurable Functions
Homework Statement For a sequence ##\{f_n\}## of measurable functions with common domain ##E##, show that the following functions are measurable: ##\inf \{f_n\}##, ##\sup \{f_n\}##, ##\lim \inf \{f_n\}##, and ##\lim \sup \{f_n\}## Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution It suffices to...- Bashyboy
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- Functions Measurable
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Composition of a Continuous and Measurable Function
Homework Statement Suppose that ##f## and ##g## are real-valued functions defined on all of ##\Bbb{R}##,##f## is measurable, and ##g## is continuous. Is the composition ##f \circ g## necessarily measurable? Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution Let ##c \in \Bbb{R}## be arbitrary. Then...- Bashyboy
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- Composition Continuous Function Measurable
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Can Measurable Sets Be Written as Disjoint Union of Countable Collection?
Homework Statement I am working through a theorem on necessary and sufficient conditions for a set to be measurable and came across the following claim used in the proof: Let ##E## be measurable and ##m^*(E) = \infty##. Then ##E## can be written as a disjoint union of a countable collection of...- Bashyboy
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- Measurable Sets Theorem
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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I Are Evanescent Gravitational Waves Measurable
Hi, (all discussions here are in the extreme weak field approximation about Minkowski space) For the last couple of years I've been looking into the production and reception of radio frequency gravitational waves. It's kind of a retirement project the main goal of which is to get a better...- Paul Colby
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- Gravitational Gravitational waves Measurable Waves
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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I What Is a Measurable Cardinal in Set Theory?
Please help me, I am an idiot ) From here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurable_cardinal measurable cardinal is a certain kind of large cardinal number. In order to define the concept, one introduces a two-valued measure on a cardinal κ, or more generally on any set. For a cardinal κ, it...- tzimie
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- Measurable
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- Forum: Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
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Show a limited function is measurable
Not sure about the translated term limited (from German); perhaps cut-off function? Homework Statement Let f be a measurable function in a measure space (\Omega, \mathcal{F}, \mu) and C>0. Show that the following function is measurable: f_C(x) = \left\{ \begin{array}{ll} f(x) & \mbox{if }...- diddy_kaufen
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- Function Measurable Measure theory
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Out of phase light/photons, would it be measurable?
With sound you can create out of phase signals and they cancel out, this is not possible with light as it does not interact like sound does. If it was possible to create two light sources in that were exactly 180 degrees out of phase with each other and aim them at a common point (eg an... -
When is resistance large enough to be measurable?
Homework Statement We conducted experiments using copper wires to observe the effect length has on resistance. We measured lengths from 5 - 30 cm and used a multimeter to measure the voltage while supplying a constant current from a power supply package. The multimeter measures in mV. Plotting...- NihalRi
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- Lab Measurable Resistance
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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B Can the space (or else measurable) be actually infinite?
The (most popular) flat model of Universe is space-infinite. How the infinity is measured? Can you give me references to the papers about the actual infinity of space?- Dmitri Martila
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- Infinite Infinity Measurable Space
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- Forum: Cosmology
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How can you ensure you pull a mass at a constant velocity
In an experiment I hope to carry out, one of my "constants" are velocity (constant velocity). I must say a way I will keep this value constant. For example I can not say "I will try my best to pull mass at a constant velocity" "I will take a video of the experiment. When I examine the video, I...- Nick tringali
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- Acceleration Constant Constant velocity Mass Measurable Pull Velocity
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- Forum: Mechanics
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Intro Physics Which book written: only measurable quantity - length?
In which book is it written that the only measurable physical quantity is the length? Task. In any book I've seen thoughts and images that very clearly illustrate the sequence of actions and implicit assumptions when measuring something. The result has been that in any measurement key was the...- Oleg Melnichuk
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- Book Length Measurable
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- Forum: Science and Math Textbooks
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Why is impact parameter not directly measurable?
I'm trying to understand a few things about the kinematics of collision processes. I guess it's because we calculate the scattered angle of the projectile and then back calculate to get a value for the impact parameter. Is this right?- says
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- Impact Measurable Parameter
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- Forum: High Energy, Nuclear, Particle Physics
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Over what scale is curvature measurable
Imagine I have three space probes that I send out radially. They have a superluminal way to determine each other's relative position to each other instantaneously. If each one measures the relative position of the other two and comes up with an angle for them, how far away would they have to...- newjerseyrunner
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- Curvature Measurable Scale
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- Forum: Cosmology
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In Need of Some (Measurable) Illumination
< Mentor Note -- thread moved to Astro forum from the Sci-Fi Fantasy forum >[/color] I apologise in advance if this comes across as hopelessly esoteric, but here goes: picture a 250 metre diameter sphere suspended in space (okay, in orbit round the Sun) with a surface temperature of 8,000 K...- Dr Wu
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- Forum: Astronomy and Astrophysics
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How is enthelpy not directily measurable?
I keep hearing that enthalpy is not directly measurable and that on it's own it carries no physical signifigance. But if you have a gas in a container for example, it has some internal energy which I'm assuming is measurable (a least in principle), and you can also measure its pressure as well...- cdot
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- Measurable
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- Forum: Thermodynamics
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Uncovering the Mystery: Solving a Puzzling Real Analysis Exam Problem
Hi, I was leafing through some old exams of our Real analysis course, and I found this puzzling problem: "Let A⊂ℝ be Lebesgue-measurable so that for all a∈A, i = 1,2, ... (1) m1( {x∈ℝ | a+(3/4)i-2 < x < a + i-2} ) < i-3 Claim: m1(A) = 0." Initially I thought this may have something to do...- Jaggis
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- Analysis Exam Measurable Real analysis
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MHB Show that it is metric and the measurable is 0
Hey! :o In a space of finite measure, if $f$ and $g$ are measurable we set $\rho (f,g)=\int \frac{|f-g|}{1+|f-g|}d \mu$. Show that $\rho$ is metric and that $f_n \rightarrow f$ as for $\rho$ if and only if $\forall c>0$ we have that $\mu(\{|f_n-f|>c\})\rightarrow 0$.What does "$f_n \rightarrow...- mathmari
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- Measurable Metric
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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MHB What is this theorem about measurable functions saying?
**Theorem:** Let $(\Omega,\mathcal{F})$ be a measurable space and let $f:\Omega \rightarrow Y$ be a given function. Let $\mathcal{A}$ be a collection of subsets of $Y$. If $f^{-1}(A) \in \mathcal{F}$ for every $A \in \mathcal{A}$, then $f^{-1}(A) \in \mathcal{F}$ for every $A \in...- kalish1
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- Functions Measurable Theorem
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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What Is the Difference Between a Measure and a Measurable Function?
This might not be the right subforum, but I was told that measure theory is very important in probability theory, so I thought maybe it belonged here.I am confused about the difference between a measure (which is a function onto \mathbb{R} that satisfies the axioms listed here...- dumb_curiosity
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- Difference Function Measurable Measure
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- Forum: Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
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Proving Measurability of ##A## from ##E=A \cup B## with ##|B|=0##
Homework Statement Let ##E \subset \mathbb R^n## be a measurable set such that ##E=A \cup B## with ##|B|=0## (##B## is a null set). Show that ##A## is measurable. The Attempt at a Solution I know that given ##\epsilon##, there exists a ##\sigma##-elementary set ##H## such that ##E \subset...- mahler1
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- Measurable Proof Set
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Distance at which electric field causes measurable change
hello, I was wondering if there is a way in which it would be possible to calculate the distance at which an electric field would need to be to polarize a neutral object or mass m, to a point where the object being like a rod, aligns with the field. I guess this is dependent on the mass...- Rick135
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- Change Electric Electric field Field Measurable
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- Forum: Electromagnetism
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Does potential energy have measurable corresponding mass?
When a rubber band is stretched, or a battery is charged, or two massive objects are separated, the potential energy of all these systems increases in each situation. Now say that any of these systems were suspended in space. If we were to measure the gravitational field of the uncharged...- graciousgroove
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- Energy Mass Measurable Potential Potential energy
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- Forum: Mechanics
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Elementary point about measurable cards
Just refreshing my understanding of measurable cardinals, the first step (more questions may follow, but one step at a time) is to make sure I understand the conditions: one of them is For a (an uncountable) measurable cardinal κ, there exists a non-trivial, 0-1-valued measure μ on P(κ)...- nomadreid
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- Cards Elementary Measurable Point
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- Forum: Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
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Measurable quantites vs Base units
So here's the familiar SI base units from NIST length mass time electric current thermodynamic temperature amount (mole) luminous intensity Something has been bugging me about this. For whatever reason I am thinking all quantities are calculated by just three on the list -...- elegysix
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- Base Measurable Units
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- Forum: Other Physics Topics
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Questions about real-valued measurable cardinals and the continuum
Putting the following three statements together: (a) Assuming that the continuum hypothesis is false, the power of the continuum 2\aleph0 is real-valued measurable. (b) The existence of a real-valued measurable and the existence of a measurable (= real-valued measurable & inaccessible)...- nomadreid
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- Continuum Measurable
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How measurable function spreads intervals
Assumptions: f:[a,b]\to\mathbb{R} is some measurable function, and M is some constant. We assume that the function has the following property: [x,x']\subset [a,b]\quad\implies\quad |f(x')-f(x)|\leq M(x'-x) The claim: The function also has the property m^*(f([a,b]))\leq M(b-a) I'm not...- jostpuur
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- Function intervals Measurable
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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Closures of the set of measurable functions
Can a measurable function be a.e. equal to a non-measurable function? Let ##(X,\Sigma,\mu)## be an arbitrary measure space. Let M be the set of measurable functions from X into ##\mathbb C##. I know that M is closed under pointwise limits. I'd like to know if M is also closed under the types...- Fredrik
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- Functions Measurable Set
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Proving Measurability and Integrability of a Function on a Product Space
Homework Statement Let f : (0,1) —>R be measurable( w.r.t. Lebesgue measure) function in L1((0,1)). Define the function g on (0,1)× (0,1) by g(x,y)=f(x)/x if 0<y<x<1 g(x,y)=0 if 0<x≤y<1 Prove: 1) g is measurable function (w.r.t. Lebesgue measure in the prodcut (0,1)× (0,1) 2)g is integrable...- Funky1981
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Does If f be a Measurable Function Imply Finite ∫|f|dm?
If f be a measurable function. Assume that lim λm({x|f(x)>λ}) exists and is finite as λ tends to infinite Does this imply that ∫|f|dm is finite? Here m is the Lebesgue measure in R If not can anyone give me an example??- Funky1981
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- Finite Function Measurable
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Can Pi's Digits Become Obsolete Beyond Planck Length?
Hi all. This is my first time posting so forgive me If I am doing something wrong. I am a year 7 student interested in all types of physics and my question is, if nothing can be smaller than Planck length then wouldn't past a certain point the digits of pi become obsolete? Simply because the...- slipperyfish10
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- Length Measurable Pi Planck Planck length Units
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MHB Approximation property with F sigma and G delta Sets to show a set is measurable
[FONT=arial]Prove that a set $A\subset\mathbb{R}^n$ is (Lebesgue) measurable $\iff$ there exist a set $B$ which is an $F_{\sigma}$ and a set $C$ which is a $G_{\delta}$ such that $B\subset A\subset C$ and $C$~$B$ (C without B) is a null set. $F_{\sigma}$ is a countable union of closed sets, and...- ryo0071
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- Approximation Delta Measurable Property Set Sets Sigma
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Proving Measurable Functions Convergence in Finite Measure Sets
Let E be of finite measure and let \{ f_{n} \} _{n \geq 1} : E \rightarrow \overline{\mathbb{R}} measurable functions, finites almost everywhere in E such that f_{n} \rightarrow_{n \to \infty} f almost everywhere in E. Prove that exists a sequence (E_{i})_{i \geq 1} of measurable sets of E such...- SqueeSpleen
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- Functions Measurable
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Is A a Measurable Set with Sandwich Property?
Suppose that A is subset of R (real line) with the property for every ε > 0 there are measurable sets B and C s.t. B⊂A⊂C and m(C\B)<ε Prove A is measurable By definition A is measurable we need to prove m(E)=m(E∩A)+m(E\A) for all E the ≤ is trivial enough to show ≥: Since C is...- Funky1981
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- Measurable Set
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MHB Proving that the sum of 2 measurable functions is measurable
I know there are many proofs for this but I am having trouble proving this fact using my book's definition. My book defines first a non negative measurable function f as a function that can be written as the limit of a non decreasing sequence of non-negative simple functions. Then my book...- oblixps
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- Functions Measurable Sum
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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Integral Inequality for Measurable Functions
For what class of functions we have: $$ \int_{\Omega} [f(x)]^m dx \leq C\Bigr ( \int_{\Omega} f(x)dx\Bigr)^{m}, $$ where ##\Omega## is open bounded and ##f## is measurable on ##\Omega## and ##C,m>0##.- amirmath
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- Functions Inequality Integral Measurable
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Sequence of measurable subsets of [0,1] (Lebesgue measure, Measurable)
Homework Statement Let \left\{E_{k}\right\}_{k\in N} be a sequence of measurable subsets of [0,1] satisfying m\left(E_{k}\right)=1. Then m\left(\bigcap^{\infty}_{k=1}E_{k}\right)=1. Homework Equations m denotes the Lebesgue measure. "Measurable" is short for Lebesgue-measurable. The Attempt...- ChemEng1
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- Measurable Measure Sequence Subsets
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MHB Measurable Function (Another Question)
Is it true that if $$f:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow\mathbb{R}$$ is a measurable function and $$E\subset\mathbb{R}$$ is measurable, then $$f(E)$$ is measurable? What if f is assumed to be continuous? I think that the answer is no for the first and yes for the second, but I have no idea how to...- TheBigBadBen
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- Function Measurable
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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MHB Measurable Function Composition: f∘g
Another analysis review question: Suppose that $$f:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow\mathbb{R}$$ is a measurable function and that $$g:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow\mathbb{R}$$ is a Borel (i.e. Borel measurable) function. Show that $$f\circ g$$ is measurable. If we only assume that g is measurable, is it still...- TheBigBadBen
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- Function Measurable
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How does an atomic nucleus have a measurable diameter
How is this possible if quarks are point particles?- jaydnul
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- Atomic Diameter Measurable Nucleus
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- Forum: Atomic and Condensed Matter