0.2 percent offset for computing the yield point

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The discussion revolves around the computation of the yield point for a material based on an experimental true stress vs true strain plot. Participants explore the differences between the yield point identified visually from the graph and the yield point calculated using the 0.2% offset method, addressing the implications of these findings on material behavior.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the yield point appears to be around 1500 MPa based on visual assessment of the stress-strain curve, while the 0.2% offset method yields a lower value of approximately 1235 MPa.
  • Another participant questions the basis for asserting that the yield point is evident at 1500 MPa, suggesting that this value corresponds to a 2% yield if the x-axis represents strain in decimal form.
  • It is clarified that the x-axis units are not percentages, indicating that the discussion is focused on strain rather than percentage yield.
  • Participants discuss the concept of yield point determination by drawing a line from the origin to the breaking point and finding where a parallel line is tangent to the stress-strain curve.
  • One participant asserts that significant plastic deformation occurs at 1500 MPa, suggesting that the 0.2% offset method is appropriate for estimating the yield point.
  • There is speculation about the material being a strong metal, possibly chromoly steel, but no definitive identification is made.
  • A suggestion is made to adjust the graphical representation to better highlight the elastic region of the curve.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the yield point values derived from visual assessment versus the 0.2% offset method, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not reach a consensus on the yield point values, and there are indications of uncertainty regarding the material properties and the appropriateness of the methods used for determining the yield point.

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I need to compute the yield point for an experimental true stress vs true strain plot of a material as attached in the screenshot.

See attached;

I have true stress vs true strain plot. I took some initial points on the curve and fitted a straight line which gives me the elastic part of the curve.

I constructed a line parallel to this straight line (parallel line has same slope as straight line, I got the constant of y = mx + c of the parallel line by putting x =0.002 when y = 0).

But from the graph it is evident that yield point is around 1500 MPa but the offset method gives me a yield point around 1235 MPa.

Please can anyone suggets/help what is going wrong?
 

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svishal03 said:
But from the graph it is evident that yield point is around 1500 MPa but the offset method gives me a yield point around 1235 MPa.

Why is it evident it occurs at 1500 MPa? It seems to me that 1500 MPa is approximately 2% yield (if the units on the x-axis are decimal percentages). Remember that 0.2% yield is a pretty small deviation from the linear region.

What material are you testing?
 
The units on x-axis are not percentages.

I say that it is evident that yielding occurs at 1500MPa. because at yielding material just flows.

We can also say that one gets yield point by joining origina with breaking point (this getting a line) and then drawing a line parallel to this line such that the line drawn parallel is tangent to the stress strain curve.This point where the parallel line is tangent is the yield point (http://composite.about.com/library/glossary/y/bldef-y6168.htm).

From the graph it looks that 'flowing' occurs at around 1500MPa definitely not 1235
 
The material is a metal
 
svishal03 said:
The units on x-axis are not percentages.

OK, so it's strain then.
svishal03 said:
I say that it is evident that yielding occurs at 1500MPa. because at yielding material just flows.

The 0.2% yield number is meant to be the boundary of the material's linear elastic region. I would say the material is well into the yield region by 1500 MPa, because there is significant (to the eye) plastic deformation occurring. If you loaded the sample to 1500 MPa and then released, you would see permanent deformation after just one cycle.

svishal03 said:
From the graph it looks that 'flowing' occurs at around 1500MPa definitely not 1235

Be that as it may, it looks to me like there is significant plastic deformation by 1500 MPa, so I would say your estimated 0.2% offset is correct.

svishal03 said:
The material is a metal

OK, well that's not very helpful. Whatever it is it's pretty strong stuff with yield in the 1235 MPa regime (chromoly steel maybe?) I ask because it would be nice to be able to compare published values to your calculated value and see if you're in the ballpark...
 
You really should make the pic show more about the elastic area. No need to have the strain go up to 0,5 if you're studying the area of up to 0,005 or something.
 

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