1st year calc. trig, and inequalities

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The discussion revolves around two calculus problems: one involving a trigonometric identity related to a right-angled triangle and the other concerning the solution of a cubic inequality. The subject area includes trigonometry and inequalities in calculus.

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  • The original poster attempts to prove a trigonometric identity involving cotangent and sine, expressing confusion about the relationships between the sides of a triangle and the functions involved. They also seek clarification on solving a cubic inequality.
  • Some participants suggest using sine and cosine to manipulate the trigonometric identity and question the implications of the right-angled triangle context.
  • In the inequality discussion, participants explore methods for factoring and sketching cubic functions, with some suggesting the use of the wavy curve method to determine the sign of the polynomial.

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Participants have provided various approaches to both problems, including algebraic manipulation and alternative methods for solving inequalities. There is an ongoing exploration of different techniques, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach for either problem.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about the application of trigonometric identities and the handling of cubic inequalities, indicating potential gaps in understanding fundamental concepts. The discussion includes references to specific methods and terms that may not be universally known among participants.

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Hi!
Im stuck on 2 assignment questions and I was hoping to get help on whut I am doing wrong. Its 1st year Calculus

1) It says Given a right angled triangle prove that 1/1+cot^2 X=sin^2 X
so I know cot=1/tan so 1/tan= 1/(opp/adj) therefore cot=1/(opp/adj) so 1/cot become (this is where it gets messy) opp/adj..?? i think since cot=1/(opp/adj) =adj/opp so 1/cot youd flip it again so opp/adj? And sin is opp/hyp .. so I am confused how does 1+opp/adj=opp/hyp ... or is that just it and it doesnt??

2) is *Solve the given inequalities giving the solution set of each s an interval or as a union of intervals. x^3 <x/9 so I've tried and tried I don't know how to solve this one. I've tried bringing x/9 to the other side and find a common denominator but that gives (9x^3-x)/9... and I don't know how to get x on one side and the numbers onthe other... especially since there is an x and a x^3... Is there a set of rules or something I am forgetting... I also tried mult. both sides by 9 9x^3<x.
 
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For 1) you should use the fact that cot(x)= cos(x) / sin(x) instead of the adjacent/opposite stuff. Then try to manipulate the given equation to look like an identity that you already know.

SBRH
 
x^3 < x/9
Multiply both sides by 9 and move the term on the right:
9x^3 - x < 0
Thus..
x(9x^2 - 1) < 0
And factorizing further...
x(3x + 1)(3x - 1) < 0
You can go on from there. :)
 
Pseudo's method is a good one, but you need to sketch a cubic for the last part (not difficult in itself).

Here's another method.

[tex]x^3 \leq \frac{x}{9}[/tex]

First check that x = 0 is a solution, it is.

Now divide out by x. Separate into two cases.

Case 1 (x positive)

[tex]x^2 \leq \frac{1}{9}[/tex]
[tex]0 < x \leq \frac{1}{3}[/tex]
Adding the solution x = 0,
[tex]0 \leq x \leq \frac{1}{3}[/tex]

Case 2 (x negative)
[tex]x^2 \geq \frac{1}{9}[/tex]
[tex]x \leq -\frac{1}{3}[/tex]

So the full solution set is [tex](x \leq -\frac{1}{3}) \cup (0 \leq x \leq \frac{1}{3})[/tex]
 
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For the first problem, I would be inclined to change everything to sine and cosine.
[tex]cot x= \frac{cos x}{sin x}[/itex] so [itex]\frac{1}{1+ cot^2 x}= \frac{1}{1+ \frac{cos^2 x}{sin^2 x}= \frac{sin^2 x}{sin^2 x+ cos^2 x}= sin^2 x[/itex]<br /> since sin<sup>2</sup> x+ cos<sup>2</sup> x= 1.<br /> <br /> I'm a bit puzzled by "Given a right angled triangle". That seems to me to imply that the equation is true only if x is an angle in a right triangle but in fact that is an identity, true for all x.[/tex]
 
Pseudo's method is a good one, but you need to sketch a cubic for the last part

Why do you mean by sketching a cubic?
You can get the answer directly from Pseudo's last step with no calculations.
Heard of the wavy curve method ?
 
arunbg said:
Why do you mean by sketching a cubic?
You can get the answer directly from Pseudo's last step with no calculations.
Heard of the wavy curve method ?

No, I must say I haven't. What's the wavy curve method (sounds like something a hairdresser might use :smile:)?
 
arunbg said:
Heard of the wavy curve method ?

That's new to me. What is it? I'm intrigued now :smile:

~H
 
Well, its just a silly name given to a simple method of solving such equations in math (I guess it was coined by some Indian as I see it only in Indian texts).You have probably learned it under some other name or no name perhaps.
Anyway,
If you have a polynomial function like (ax+b)(cx+d)... ,
and would like to know where the function is +ve or -ve( on the real line of course) just arrange the roots in ascending order as on the no line.
Start from the rightmost root.All values of the function for x greater than this root are +ve.Then in the interval between the largest and second largest the value is -ve and its goes on alternating between the roots.

As an example , in the above case x(3x+1)(3x-1),
The roots are -1/3,0,1/3.
x > 1/3 => expression +ve
0< x < 1/3 => -ve
-1/3< x < 0 =>+ve
x<-1/3 => -ve

Sounds familiar ?

Its called wavy curve because you can draw something of a wiggling worm on the no line.
HAHAHA
 
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arunbg said:
Well, its just a silly name given to a simple method of solving such equations in math (I guess it was coined by some Indian as I see it only in Indian texts).You have probably learned it under some other name or no name perhaps.
Anyway,
If you have a polynomial function like (ax+b)(cx+d)... ,
and would like to know where the function is +ve or -ve( on the real line of course) just arrange the roots in ascending order as on the no line.
Start from the rightmost root.All values of the function for x greater than this root are +ve.Then in the interval between the largest and second largest the value is -ve and its goes on alternating between the roots.

As an example , in the above case x(3x+1)(3x-1),
The roots are -1/3,0,1/3.
x > 1/3 => expression +ve
0< x < 1/3 => -ve
-1/3< x < 0 =>+ve
x<-1/3 => -ve

Sounds familiar ?

Its called wavy curve because you can draw something of a wiggling worm on the no line.
HAHAHA


But that's *exactly* the same as roughly sketching the curve to show the roots!:confused:

Also, don't forget that this method only forms the correct conclusions when the coefficient of the highest power of x is positive. If it's negative, the rule should be reversed for everything.

I'm sorry, this just doesn't strike me as anything to write home about, it's basically the same thing I do when I sketch the curve.:smile:
 
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Sketching a curve or wavy curve its the same thing.
Just a little misunderstanding there.
And yeah I forgot about the coefficients.

Cheers,
Arun
 
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Yes it is!

Suppose you have in general a cubic function [itex]f(x)[/itex], you can sketch the curve to get a fair idea of the location of roots (using [itex]f'(x)[/itex] which is a quadratic and easy to solve). You can also use negative Rolle's Theorem if its applicable.

As a simple example, if you have something like [itex]x^2 < 9[/itex] (this is too easy), you can write it as

[itex](x-3)(x+3) < 0[/itex]

draw a rough number axis divided into 3 parts: [itex]x < -3[/itex], [itex]-3<x<3[/itex] and [itex]x > 3[/itex]. Write down the sign of the function [itex]x^2 - 9 = (x-3)(x+3)[/itex] in each of these regions. It is clear that the inequality is satisfied for [itex]-3<x<3[/itex]. You can try doing this for cubic functions factorizable as 3 linear functions or a quadratic with complex factors and a linear factor. More examples will help...
 

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