Solving for Betty's Force in a 2-D Tug of War

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In the two-dimensional tug-of-war problem, the forces exerted by Alex and Charles keep the tire stationary, requiring Betty's force to balance them. For part (a), the calculations correctly yield Betty's force as 321.60 N when considering Charles's direction as drawn. Part (b) poses a challenge, as it asks for the force magnitude when Charles pulls in the opposite direction, which involves finding an alternative angle for equilibrium. The key is recognizing that the cosine function has two angles that yield the same value, leading to a second possible angle in the fourth quadrant. Understanding this concept is crucial for solving part (b) effectively.
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Homework Statement


in a two-dimensional tug-of-war, Alex, Betty, and Charles pull horizontally on an automobile tire at the angles shown in the picture. The tire remains stationary in spite of the three pulls. Alex pulls with force of magnitude 211 N, and Charles pulls with force of magnitude 181 N. Note that the direction of is not given. What is the magnitude of Betty's force if Charles pulls in (a) the direction drawn in the picture or (b) the other possible direction for equilibrium?

** I got part a correct but i just do not understand what part b is looking


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for part a i used Fb= -fa-Fc
found angle of fa = 180-42= 138
fby=-fay-fcy
fbsin(-90)=-fasin138-fcsintheta
then did same thing with x components to get angle theta= 29.97 then plugged that angle into formula -fb=-(211N0(sin138)-181N(sin 29.97)
= 321.60 N

I understand that but how do i do the other possible direction? The question does not even make sense to me

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wbetting said:

Homework Statement


in a two-dimensional tug-of-war, Alex, Betty, and Charles pull horizontally on an automobile tire at the angles shown in the picture. The tire remains stationary in spite of the three pulls. Alex pulls with force of magnitude 211 N, and Charles pulls with force of magnitude 181 N. Note that the direction of is not given. What is the magnitude of Betty's force if Charles pulls in (a) the direction drawn in the picture or (b) the other possible direction for equilibrium?

** I got part a correct but i just do not understand what part b is looking


Homework Equations



for part a i used Fb= -fa-Fc
found angle of fa = 180-42= 138
fby=-fay-fcy
fbsin(-90)=-fasin138-fcsintheta
then did same thing with x components to get angle theta= 29.97
This is good
then plugged that angle into formula -fb=-(211N0(sin138)-181N(sin 29.97)
= 321.60 N
your equation is good but your math is off, run those numbers again
I understand that but how do i do the other possible direction? The question does not even make sense to me
when you summed forces in the x direction, you got theta = 29.97 degrees, yes, but there is also another angle for theta that yields the same cosine value as cos 29.97...what is that angle (hint, in 4th quadrant).
 
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