3 printers rest on top of each other on a table [FORCES]

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The discussion centers on calculating the forces exerted by three stacked printers, X, Y, and Z, with respective masses of 4 kg, 3 kg, and 2 kg. The force exerted by the middle printer (Y) on the bottom printer (Z) is determined to be 68.6 N, which is the combined weight of the top two printers. There is confusion regarding whether to combine the weights of the upper printers for calculations, as it may lead to incorrect interpretations of the forces involved. The equilibrium condition requires that the forces balance out, indicating that the force exerted by Y on X must also be 68.6 N. The conversation suggests starting with simpler problems to clarify the concepts of force and equilibrium.
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Homework Statement


Three printers [X, Y, Z] are placed on top of each other on a table. What force does the middle printer exert on each of the other two printers.

x is on top, y in middle, and z on bottom.

x = 4 kg, y = 3 kg , and z = 2 kg
2. F = ma



The Attempt at a Solution



I can consider the top two printers as one so the weight would be 7 kg.

F = (7kg)(9.8 m/s^2 )
= 68.6 N

That would be the force exerted on z(the bottom printer).

The normal force would be exerted on the top printer so:

F = (5kg)(9.8 m/s^2 )
= 49 N

However this doesn't make sense since, the objects are in equilibrium so they're suppose to be equal...Please help?
 
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68.6 N is the force between the middle and the lower printer, and required to support the upper two printers.
You can use the same argument to calculate the force between the upper and the middle printer - you can even save one step, as you don't have to combine objects there.
 
mfb said:
68.6 N is the force between the middle and the lower printer, and required to support the upper two printers.
You can use the same argument to calculate the force between the upper and the middle printer - you can even save one step, as you don't have to combine objects there.

The forces have to balance out so would be just 68.6 between the middle one and the upper one.

Also, since I'm combining objects in my previous calculations. wouldn't it be incorrect because I'm taking into account the forces of two objects when I should be just finding the force exerted by the middle one(y). The thought just came in my mind.
 
dungas said:
The forces have to balance out so would be just 68.6 between the middle one and the upper one.
This would not give balanced forces, as you have nothing to balance the gravitational force of the middle printer then.

Also, since I'm combining objects in my previous calculations. wouldn't it be incorrect because I'm taking into account the forces of two objects when I should be just finding the force exerted by the middle one(y). The thought just came in my mind.
I don't understand what you mean.

Try to solve an easier problem first: Two printers, standing on a table. The upper one has a mass of 4kg, the lower one has a mass of 3kg. What is the force between them? Does this give balanced forces on the upper printer?
 
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