A confusion with tangent galvanometer

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of a tangent galvanometer, particularly the relationship between the magnetic fields generated by the coil and the Earth's magnetic field when no current is passed through the coil. Participants explore the theoretical expectations versus practical observations regarding field orientations.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the expected orientation of the magnetic fields when no current is flowing through the coil, questioning why the coil's field should be perpendicular to the Earth's horizontal field.
  • Others suggest that the coil's magnetic field could be parallel or anti-parallel to the Earth's field, and propose that rotating the device could lead to a perpendicular configuration.
  • A participant challenges the use of the term "ideally," seeking clarification on what configurations are considered ideal in this context.
  • One participant asserts that the field lines created by a coil are ideally perpendicular to its plane, while another clarifies that the coil should be oriented in the Earth's magnetic North-South meridian plane for proper functioning.
  • There is acknowledgment that confusion arises from the interaction of the compass or magnet with the coil's field when current is applied.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the magnetic field orientations and the implications of the coil's configuration. Multiple competing views remain regarding the ideal conditions and practical usage of the tangent galvanometer.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings about the definitions of ideal configurations and the assumptions regarding the orientation of the coil in relation to the Earth's magnetic field.

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When no current is passed through the coil it shows no deflection i.e. B is in the direction shown. But according to theory both fields should be perpendicular (Earth's horizontal field and the one due to coil).
But I am confused because the coil would ideally create a magnetic field that is either parallel or anti-parallel to Earth's Horizontal magnetic field. Is there somewhere I made a blunder or am I missing something?
 

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Rishavutkarsh said:
But I am confused because the coil would ideally create a magnetic field that is either parallel or anti-parallel to Earth's Horizontal magnetic field.
If that happens, rotate the device by 90 degrees, then they are perpendicular to each other. The orientation of the magnet without current helps to find the right orientation.
 
What do you mean by "ideally" in this case? I simply don't know why you say that the parallel fields or antiparallel fields configurations are "ideal".
 
mfb said:
If that happens, rotate the device by 90 degrees, then they are perpendicular to each other. The orientation of the magnet without current helps to find the right orientation.
Yeah that's what I thought too but as far as I know this is the way this device is used (Without rotating it).

Philip Wood said:
What do you mean by "ideally" in this case? I simply don't know why you say that the parallel fields or antiparallel fields configurations are "ideal".
I mean the field lines created by a coil are exactly perpendicular to it's plane 'ideally'.
 
Rishavutkarsh said:
I mean the field lines created by a coil are exactly perpendicular to it's plane 'ideally'.
That's correct, but it's not what you said before!
You orientate the coil with its plane in the Earth's magnetic North-South meridian plane. So the coil's field (at its centre) is in the East-West direction, that is at right angles to the Earth's field. With no current through the coil a compass (or magnetometer) magnet placed at the centre of the coil will point magnetic North. As soon as you have a current through the coil it will deflect from North.
 
I got it that's correct; Thank you. I got confused a bit by that compass and magnet.
 

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