A couple of Integration problems

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The discussion revolves around integration problems involving rational functions. The original poster presents two specific integrals, one involving a fraction with a polynomial in the denominator and the other involving a root function.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts u-substitution for the first integral and expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their manipulation. They also seek hints for the second integral.
  • Some participants suggest using partial fraction decomposition for the first problem and recommend a substitution for the second problem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts and providing guidance on potential methods to approach the integrals. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the first integral, with some suggesting further techniques while the original poster expresses confusion about their current approach.

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The original poster indicates they have spent considerable time on these problems and are looking for assistance without receiving complete solutions. There is an emphasis on understanding the methods rather than just obtaining answers.

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A couple of Integration problems 9dx/(x(x^4 + 8 ))

Homework Statement



Hi

I'm new to this forum. I have a couple of Integration Problems which I am not able to integrate correctly. I will also post my attempt at solving the problem so u guys can see what method i took trying to solve these. spent a lot of time in these questions and finally decided to post in this forum.

1
9dx/(x(x^4 + 8 ))

2
integ 37dx/((root(x)+ xroot(x))


The Attempt at a Solution




My attempt

i tried u substitution with u=x^2
also 9 is a constant so i took it out for the time being(ill multiply the answer i get with 9)

9 integ dx/(x(x^4 + 8 )) u = x^2 du=2xdx
9 integ xdx/(x^2(x^4 + 8 ))
9*1/2 integ du/(u(u^2 + 8 )

9*1/2 integ du/(u^3 + 8u ) ??
9*1/2 (ln|u^3 +8u|) <<is that answer correct?

if not can someone kindly tell me how to do this problem pls.




I do not know how to go about the 2nd problem. any hints on how to approach it are welcome :)


thanks in advance!
 
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1. Decompose \frac{1}{x\left(x^4+8\right)} into partial fractions

2. u=\sqrt{x} + partial fraction decomposition
 


star001 said:

Homework Statement



Hi

I'm new to this forum. I have a couple of Integration Problems which I am not able to integrate correctly. I will also post my attempt at solving the problem so u guys can see what method i took trying to solve these. spent a lot of time in these questions and finally decided to post in this forum.

1
9dx/(x(x^4 + 8 ))

2
integ 37dx/((root(x)+ xroot(x))


The Attempt at a Solution




My attempt

i tried u substitution with u=x^2
also 9 is a constant so i took it out for the time being(ill multiply the answer i get with 9)

9 integ dx/(x(x^4 + 8 )) u = x^2 du=2xdx
9 integ xdx/(x^2(x^4 + 8 ))
9*1/2 integ du/(u(u^2 + 8 )

9*1/2 integ du/(u^3 + 8u ) ??
So far so good, but the next line is not correct.
\int \frac{du}{u}~=~ln|u| + C
but you don't have just exactly u in the denominator; you have u3 + 8u. To work through that integral you probably need a technique called partial fraction decomposition, AKA partial fractions.
star001 said:
9*1/2 (ln|u^3 +8u|) <<is that answer correct?

if not can someone kindly tell me how to do this problem pls.




I do not know how to go about the 2nd problem. any hints on how to approach it are welcome :)


thanks in advance!
For your second problem, I would start with a substitution u = sqrt(x), and see where that takes you.
 
Thanks a lot guys!
 

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