A few questions about using power laws

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The discussion revolves around power law density distributions in the context of rotational dynamics, specifically addressing homework questions related to the implications of such distributions on rotation curves. Participants explore theoretical aspects and calculations related to the Milky Way's rotation curve and mass-to-light ratios.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance with demonstrating that a flat rotation curve can be achieved with a power-law distribution where the exponent is 2, and solid body rotation with an exponent of 0.
  • Another participant questions the wording of a specific part of the homework, expressing uncertainty about whether it refers to visible mass or total mass.
  • A subsequent reply clarifies that the total mass enclosed within a radius of 2R is being sought, along with the mass-to-light ratio if all luminosity is contained within that radius.
  • A participant describes how gravitational acceleration on a test particle depends on the total mass enclosed and relates this to the speed of a particle at a given radius, indicating that if the density follows a specific power law, the mass enclosed behaves in a certain way.
  • There is a question posed about how the velocity should depend on radius for a solid spinning body and how it actually depends on radius when the exponent is 0.

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Participants express differing interpretations of the homework question regarding mass and luminosity, indicating a lack of consensus on the wording and its implications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific requirements of the assignment.

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Participants note potential ambiguities in the assignment's wording, which may affect the interpretation of the mass and luminosity concepts being discussed. There is also an implicit assumption about the relationship between density and mass distribution that is not fully explored.

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Have a homework question about power law density distributions that I could use a little help on...

Given a power-law distribution, ρ(R) \propto R^{-\propto}, show that a flat rotation curve can be obtained if \propto = 2 and that solid body rotation is obtained if \propto = 0.

Also, I'm really not sure what this next question is asking for... Any help?

Suppose the rotation curve of the Milky Way is flat out to 2R_{0}. What mass does that imply out to that distance? If all the luminosity of the Milky Way is contained inside 2R_{0} what is the mass-to-light ratio of the Milky Way in solar units? What is the significance of this value?
 
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There seems to be something wrong with the wording of the question. In regards to the last part. I cannot decide if they are looking for the visible mass as opposed to the total mass or the luminosity of the visible mass.
Is this the same wording or your variation if the wording?
 
This is the exact wording from the assignment. I believe we are looking for the total mass out to 2R. Then the M/L ratio of the MW if all the luminosity is also in this 2R.
 
You can show (using a gravitational equivalent of Gauss' law or something like that) that the gravitational acceleration on a test particle at radius R depends only on the total mass enclosed Menc by that radius. The mass enclosed has a ρ*R3 dependence, of course. By equating centripetal acceleration to gravitational acceleration, you get that the speed v, of a particle at radius R should be ##v = \sqrt{GM_{enc} / R}##

Of course, if Menc depends on ρR3, then Menc / R depends on ρR2. If ρ goes like R-2, then Menc/R goes like R0. In other words, it has no R dependence. It is constant.

For a solid spinning body, how should v depend on R? How does v actually depend on R for alpha = 0?
 

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