A good intersting physics book

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The discussion centers on the challenge of finding a physics book that avoids a focus on mechanics, as the original poster expresses a dislike for this area. Participants emphasize that mechanics is foundational to physics, making it difficult to fully grasp advanced topics like quantum mechanics without some understanding of classical mechanics. Suggestions include Leonard Susskind's books, which approach classical and quantum mechanics from abstract perspectives, and a specific book that introduces physics through the concept of symmetry. While some participants acknowledge that the suggested book covers topics briefly, they agree it serves as a good introductory resource. Overall, the consensus is that a basic understanding of mechanics is essential for a comprehensive study of physics, even if the reader prefers more abstract or philosophical discussions.
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i want to read a good physics book, but i dislike mechanics, any suggestions?
 
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1832vin said:
i want to read a good physics book, but i dislike mechanics, any suggestions?

Everything in physics is based on mechanics in one way or another. So you'll have to bite the bullet and learn classical mechanics.
 
Why wold you want a physics book if you "dislike" mechanics?
 
Thats like saying I want a good Calculus book but dislike Algebra.
 
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it's not like i don't want a single forumlar in the whole book, but something about advance physics that is not based on a topic of (moving objects?)
like quantum physics (ie, higs bosons) , there are many maths in it, but it's based around philosophical ideas
 
The Higgs boson is not a "philosophical idea." It's based on particle interactions, i.e. moving particles within the Higgs field. Likewise for quantum mechanics in general. Yes, there are some philosophical ideas that people can draw out of the more mysterious aspects and such, but quantum mechanics as a whole is not a "philosophical idea." Widely speaking, it is about movement and motion on the quantum level.
 
1832vin said:
nono...
it's not like i don't want a single forumlar in the whole book, but something about advance physics that is not based on a topic of (moving objects?)
like quantum physics (ie, higs bosons) , there are many maths in it, but it's based around philosophical ideas

You can't learn QM thoroughly if you're ignorant of classical mechanics. Have you tried Leonard Susskind's 2 books, one on classical the second on quantum mechanics. He starts each with a discussion of somewhat abstract systems, and how they differ in the 2 mechanics. That might interest you. It helps to have enough math to understand some variational calculus, which is really at the foundation of both versions of physics. On the other hand, these aren't textbooks, full of exercises the practice of which will provide some facility with performing the sorts of calculations that help in applications of the theory and understanding more advanced texts...
 
Well, it's an interesting question, whether one can learn physics without ever touching classical mechanics. You'd need to learn classical field theory then and just define quantum theory as quantum field theory. To be honest, I doubt it that this makes any sense, because classical mechanics is still the perfect introduction to physics. Of course, as it is taught in the beginning it's pretty horrible, but as soon as it's formulated with Hamilton's least-action principle, it's just beautiful, and that's the way you need it to understand the more modern branches of physics.
 
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smodak said:
How about https://www.amazon.com/dp/3319192000/?tag=pfamazon01-20?

You can see some previews here

It does have some mechanics but from a different point of view...

I took a peek at the previews and noted how short some of the chapters were (four or five pages in come cases). Are those topics really covered adequately in the space of a few pages? The approach seems interesting nevertheless.
 
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Mark Harder said:
I took a peek at the previews and noted how short some of the chapters were (four or five pages in come cases). Are those topics really covered adequately in the space of a few pages? The approach seems interesting nevertheless.
Adequately? I do not think the book is exhaustive if that is what you mean - it is not going to make the reader a master of all the topics covered - it is a fine introduction nonetheless. It uses a different (from normal) approach of doing physics using the concept of symmetry.
 

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