A learn's puzzle on transformation equation

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The discussion revolves around the inclusion of time (t) in the transformation equation ri=ri(q1,q2,...,qn,t) in classical mechanics. It is clarified that while the coordinates q_i can have time-dependence, defining r_i with explicit time dependence is also valid. An example is provided with a particle's motion to illustrate this concept. The concern about degrees of freedom is raised, noting that a system with n degrees of freedom requires n independent coordinates, suggesting that t may represent the change of constraints over time. The conversation emphasizes the flexibility in defining coordinates in relation to time in transformation equations.
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Hi, I'm a new learner of CM and I was stuck at the very beginning. TT
The transformation equation is ri=ri(q1,q2,...,qn,t)
I wonder why t should be in the bracket.
Aren't r determined by these independent coordinates? Isn't t already contained in them?
 
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atreess said:
Hi, I'm a new learner of CM and I was stuck at the very beginning. TT
The transformation equation is ri=ri(q1,q2,...,qn,t)
I wonder why t should be in the bracket.
Aren't r determined by these independent coordinates? Isn't t already contained in them?

Certainly the q_{i} can have some time-dependence, and that gives r_{i} implicit time-dependence. But, you can also choose to define some new coordinates r_{i} with explicit dependence on time.

For example, consider a particle in 1-D motion described by x(t)=v_0t. There is no reason you can't define a new variable q(x,t)=3x+a_0 t^2, if you have some use for that transformation.
 
Thanks very much for your reply!
But how about the degrees of freedom? A system with n degrees of freedom just needs n independent coordinates. If adding t, there must be one coordinate(q1, q2,..., or t) which is dependent. :confused:
 
I guess that t represents the change of the constraint with time. Is it right?
 
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