A manometer measures mechanical or thermodynamic pressure?

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This discussion clarifies the concepts of thermodynamic and mechanical pressure, particularly in relation to manometers. Thermodynamic pressure is defined as the force per unit area exerted by a substance in thermodynamic equilibrium, while mechanical pressure applies to substances that are not in equilibrium, such as flowing fluids. A manometer measures the difference between the mechanical pressure exerted by a substance and the ambient pressure, indicating that it measures mechanical pressure when the substance is flowing and thermodynamic pressure when it is at rest.

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Hi guys,
I have two questions as follows, ofcourse they may seem too basic, I have read through certain texts (engineering) but I still haven't been able to actually physically understand, so asked here
1) Whats thermodynamic pressure w.r.t physical point of view? - for a gas from thermodynamics I know its the force per unit area that an imaginary small face would experience at a point in the gas
Is this valid for the thermodynamic pressure at a point in a fluid (not necessarily gas)?
2) Which pressure does a manometer / or any pressure sensor measure? I'm know that thermodynamic pressure = mechanical pressure for in compressible flow or stokian fluid, but that's not my question. I want to know which is actually the pressure that my manometer is measuring - thermodynamic or mechanical pressure?
 
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nanunath said:
Hi guys,
I have two questions as follows, ofcourse they may seem too basic, I have read through certain texts (engineering) but I still haven't been able to actually physically understand, so asked here
1) Whats thermodynamic pressure w.r.t physical point of view? - for a gas from thermodynamics I know its the force per unit area that an imaginary small face would experience at a point in the gas
Is this valid for the thermodynamic pressure at a point in a fluid (not necessarily gas)?
Thermodynamic pressure is defined for a substance that is in thermodynamic equilibrium. It is the force per unit area exerted by such a substance on the boundary interface with another substance (eg. the walls of a container) that mechanically contains the substance. A substance that is not in thermodynamic equilibrium (eg. a flowing substance) exerts a mechanical pressure (on the pipe walls, for example) but does not have a precisely defined thermodynamic pressure.
2) Which pressure does a manometer / or any pressure sensor measure? I'm know that thermodynamic pressure = mechanical pressure for in compressible flow or stokian fluid, but that's not my question. I want to know which is actually the pressure that my manometer is measuring - thermodynamic or mechanical pressure?
The manometer measures the difference between the mechanical pressure exerted by a substance on the container walls and the ambient (e.g. atmospheric) pressure. If the substance is in thermodynamic equilibrium (not flowing) it measures the difference between thermodynamic pressure and ambient pressure.

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