A question of the complete metric space

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The discussion revolves around the completeness of the metric space of continuously differentiable functions with respect to different distance metrics. Participants explore the implications of these metrics on the convergence of sequences of functions, particularly in relation to differentiability.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the space of continuously differentiable functions \( C^1[0,1] \) is complete with respect to the metric \( D_\infty(f,g) = \sup{|f(t) - g(t)|} + \sup{|f'(t) - g'(t)|} \), but not with respect to \( d_\infty(f,g) = \sup{|f(t) - g(t)|} \).
  • Another participant suggests finding a sequence of differentiable functions that converges to a non-differentiable function as a counterexample.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding a theorem from "Analysis and Mathematical Physics" that states completeness holds in \( C[a,b] \) with respect to the second distance function.
  • It is noted that while the space of continuous functions is complete with respect to the second distance function, the challenge is to demonstrate that the space of continuously differentiable functions is not complete under that norm.
  • One participant acknowledges understanding the second point raised in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the completeness of the space of continuously differentiable functions, with some supporting the idea that it is not complete under certain metrics while others reference conflicting theorems. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these metrics.

Contextual Notes

There are references to specific theorems and texts that may introduce additional assumptions or definitions that are not fully explored in the discussion. The relationship between differentiability and completeness in various function spaces is a central theme, but specific mathematical steps and definitions are not clarified.

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This discussion may be of interest to students and researchers in real analysis, functional analysis, and mathematical physics, particularly those exploring properties of function spaces and metrics.

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Continuously differentiable Function C^1<br /> {} \left[0,1\right] is complete with respect to the metric space
D_\infty{}{f,g}=sup{\left|f(t)-g(t)\right|}+sup{\left|f^1{}(t)-g^1{}(t)\right|}

but not in the d_\infty{}{f,g}=sup{\left|f(t)-g(t)\right|}

Thanks for the helps in advance.

Regards...

BI
 
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For the counterexample, can you come up with a sequence of differentiable functions that converges to a non-differentiable function? Hint: Choose a very simple function that's continuous, but not differentiable.
 
yes, that is what I am trying to do, however, it is strange that, some theorem in the book "Analysis and Mathematical physics" says the 2nd holds in C[a,b] wrt the second distance function, I am now quite confused...This is an original question from the book real analysis with economic applications.
 
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The space of continuous functions is complete with respect to the second distance function. But what you're trying to show is that the space of continuously differentiable functions is not complete with respect to that norm. Since every continuously differentiable function is continuous, you know that the limit of any sequence of continuously differentiable functions has to be continuous. The problem is asking you to find sequence of differentiable functions whose limit (which is continuous) is not differentiable.
 
OK, thanks for your answers, the 2nd one is OK now!
 

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