A rock is thrown with height, direction, and inital velocity provided

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A rock is thrown from a 100 m cliff at a 38-degree angle below horizontal with an initial velocity of 20.0 m/s. The total time in flight is calculated to be 3.43 seconds, with a horizontal range of 54.2 meters, and the maximum height reached is 100 m, which is a trick question. The discussion highlights confusion around using different kinematic equations for projectile motion, specifically the need to split the initial velocity into x and y components. The participant realizes that the second kinematic equation can be adapted to solve for time and range by incorporating these components. Understanding when to apply these equations is crucial for solving similar problems effectively.
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Homework Statement



A rock is thrown off a 100 m cliff at an angle of 38 degrees below horizontal with an initial velocity of 20.0 m/s.
a) What is the total time in flight?
b) What is the horizontal range?
c) What is the max height reached by the rock?


Homework Equations



x = x_0 + v_x t
y = y_0 + v_0y t - 1/2 g t^2


The Attempt at a Solution



The answers are
a) t = 3.43 s
b) R= 54.2 m
c) 100m, trick question.


I don't get how the answers are made (I struggle with motion in two directions), but I've had them provided to me in class. I'm confused as to the process to get the answers. Above are the equations the instructor used in class, but I'm also confused as to why he used them. My book states only three kinematic equations, and those are:
v_f = v_0 + a t
Δx = v_0 t + 1/2 a t^2
v_f^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a Δx
and their vertical identicals.

Is it possible to get the answers using those three kinematic equations instead of the ones he used? Or can someone talk me through WHEN those two equations he used should be used? Like are they for projectile motion in two directions only or something?

Thanks in advance!
 
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mcKempt said:
My book states only three kinematic equations, and those are:
v_f = v_0 + a t
Δx = v_0 t + 1/2 a t^2
v_f^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a Δx
and their vertical identicals.

Is it possible to get the answers using those three kinematic equations instead of the ones he used?
The second equation from your book (highlighted) can be used to get both of the equations used by your instructor. (In one case the acceleration will be zero.)
 
Ahhhh, I see now. I always thought the first equation was given by v_0 = {x_f - x_0}over{t}.

So when I do it:
I plug in my values into Δx = v_0 t + 1/2 a t^2, I get time to equal either 69.70 or -167.27 after using the quadratic equation. This is not right.
 
Am I suppose to split the initial velocity into x and y components?
 
I found it, had to split the initial velocity and use the horizontal component into my initial velocity when I did the quadratic.

How am I suppose to know when to use the x or the y components when I solve a problem like this?

Also, since I found time (rather simple, too) how do I solve part B?
 
BTW - when I use the range equation for part B, I get 39.6 m.
 
NVM, found it. Had to plug the x-component of velocity into the first equation my instructor gave with the time we found.

Thanks, this can be closed.
 
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