A train sits on top of a 1% grade incline

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A train on a 1% grade incline accelerates uniformly until reaching level track, with a 50 N braking force applied. The discussion highlights the lack of information regarding the train's mass, the length of the incline, and the time spent on it, making it difficult to calculate the final velocity and distance traveled before stopping. Participants suggest using equations of motion or conservation of energy, but emphasize that without additional data, these methods are insufficient. The angle of the incline, calculated as approximately 0.57 degrees, is deemed unnecessary for solving the problem. Overall, the conversation centers on the limitations of the provided information for solving the physics problem.
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A train sits on top of a 1% grade. It accelerates uniformly until it reaches level track. What is the velocity the the train reaches on the incline, and how far does it travel before it comes to a stop? There is a 50 N braking force applied.

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Tan -1 (.01) = .57 degrees, the opposing force is 50N. Not sure what the next step is.
 
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What equations can you use, for something rolling down an incline? Do they tell you the mass of the train?
 
scottdave said:
What equations can you use, for something rolling down an incline? Do they tell you the mass of the train?

That's the exact question. I find it a strange question. Hmm
 
If there was no braking force, you could use equations of motion.
You could also use Conservation of Energy. Are you familiar with these?
 
scottdave said:
If there was no braking force, you could use equations of motion.
You could also use Conservation of Energy. Are you familiar with these?
We don't seem to be told either the length of the incline or the time spent thereon, so even if we knew the mass all we would have for the first part is the initial speed and acceleration. Not enough to find the speed at the bottom.
 
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Girn261 said:
Tan -1 (.01) = .57 degrees
It is rarely helpful to find the angle in these questions. Usually you only know and only want trig functions of the angle, and those can be converted one to another easily.
 
haruspex said:
We don't seem to be told either the length of the incline or the time spent thereon, so even if we knew the mass all we would have for the first part is the initial speed and acceleration. Not enough to find the speed at the bottom.

That's what I figured too, thanks.
 

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