A vector F=Fz, where z is unit vector, expressed in sphereical coord.

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The discussion focuses on converting a vector field, specifically \(\vec{F} = F\hat{z}\), which is aligned with the z-axis in Cartesian coordinates, into spherical coordinates. The conversion yields \(\hat{z} = \cos(\phi)\hat{r} - \sin(\phi)\hat{\phi}\), leading to the expression \(\vec{F} = F(\cos(\phi)\hat{r} - \sin(\phi)\hat{\phi})\). Participants discuss the need for clarity in understanding the conversion process and the definitions of spherical coordinates, particularly the polar and azimuthal angles. There is also a mention of resources for further learning, including a recommendation for the book by Arfken. The conversation emphasizes the importance of using consistent notation as taught in educational contexts.
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So the full problem reads: A vector F has the same magnitude and direction at all points in space. Choose the z-axis parallel to F. Then , in Cartesian coordinates, \vec{F}=F\hat{z}, where \hat{z} is the unit vector in the z direction. Express \vec{F} in spherical coordinates.

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I don't know?

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Well pretty much it wants me to express this vector field that is parallel with the z-axis, which really means converting \hat{z} to spherical coordinates.

I found the answer to be \hat{z} = cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi} through an online resource I really didn't understand. No images, nothing. Can someone please explain how you can convert the unit vectors to spherical?

And would the answer be \vec{F}=F\hat{z} = F(cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi})

thanks!
 
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renegade05 said:

Homework Statement



So the full problem reads: A vector F has the same magnitude and direction at all points in space. Choose the z-axis parallel to F. Then , in Cartesian coordinates, \vec{F}=F\hat{z}, where \hat{z} is the unit vector in the z direction. Express \vec{F} in spherical coordinates.

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I don't know?

The Attempt at a Solution



Well pretty much it wants me to express this vector field that is parallel with the z-axis, which really means converting \hat{z} to spherical coordinates.

I found the answer to be \hat{z} = cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi} through an online resource I really didn't understand. No images, nothing. Can someone please explain how you can convert the unit vectors to spherical?

And would the answer be \vec{F}=F\hat{z} = F(cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi})

thanks!

Yes, you are done! resolving the Cartesian unite vector z into its spherical polar coordinates yields
\hat{z} = cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi}

you just need to substitute the above equation into the relation \vec{F}=F\hat{z}.
 
So: \vec{F}=F\hat{z} = F(cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi}) is the answer?

But my question was if someone can explain why \hat{z}= cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi}
 
OK. but what's your background in math? Are you a physics student or ? I can refer you to the book Arfken where you'll find how to change the Cartesian coordinates into spherical polar ones.
 
PaulDirac said:
OK. but what's your background in math? Are you a physics student or ? I can refer you to the book Arfken where you'll find how to change the Cartesian coordinates into spherical polar ones.

physics student
 
See the picture. The unit vectors of the polar coordinates change with the position. At point P, ##\vec e_r## or ##\hat r## is the unit vector along the radial vector pointing to P from the origin. ##\vec e_Φ## or ##\hat Φ## is the unit vector perpendicular to ##\hat r## in the plane of the z axis and OP.

If you have a vector ##\vec F## at P, its projection onto the direction of the unit vectors are its components in polar coordinates.

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Yes, but just to harmonize this with future exploits, be aware that naming of spherical coordinates is almost always
##\theta## polar angle : ##\arccos (\hat z \cdot \hat r)##
##\phi## azimuthal angle : ##\arccos (\hat x \cdot \hat r)##
i.e. just the other way around. Better get used to that.
 
BvU said:
Yes, but just to harmonize this with future exploits, be aware that naming of spherical coordinates is almost always
##\theta## polar angle : ##\arccos (\hat z \cdot \hat r)##
##\phi## azimuthal angle : ##\arccos (\hat x \cdot \hat r)##
i.e. just the other way around. Better get used to that.

I would not say "almost always".

On the first page of Google results, Wiki and Hyperphysics and http://www.nyu.edu/classes/tuckerman/adv.chem/lectures/math_prelims/node12.html were pro, but the following were contra.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SphericalCoordinates.html

http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcIII/SphericalCoords.aspx

http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/docs/reference/CRC-formulas/node42.html

The OP should us those notations as he was taught.

ehild
 
The OP should us those notations as he was taught
Fully agree. What triggered me is the
I found the answer to be dadada ... through an online resource I really didn't understand
 
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