A wire segment 1.2 m long carries a current I = 3.5 A

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The problem involves a wire segment of length 1.2 m carrying a current of 3.5 A in the presence of a uniform magnetic field of 0.50 T directed toward the -x direction. Participants are tasked with determining the magnetic force vector acting on the wire segment.

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  • Participants discuss the components of the wire's length vector and the implications of the current's direction on the calculations. There are attempts to apply the cross product formula for magnetic force and questions about the correct substitution of values into the determinant.

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Multiple interpretations of the components involved in the calculations are being explored. Some participants have provided guidance regarding the signs of the current and magnetic field components, while others are questioning the correctness of the attempted calculations and the application of the right-hand rule.

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A wire segment 1.2 m long carries a current I = 3.5 A, and is oriented as shown in the figure. The +x-axis points directly into the page. A uniform magnetic field of magnitude 0.50 T pointing toward the -x direction is present as shown. What is the magnetic force vector on the wire segment?

Homework Equations


Fm=Il x B

l=1.2m

h sin θ
h cos θ


The Attempt at a Solution



1.2 sin 30° = 0.6m
1.2 cos 30°= 1.04m

Fm= I | i j k |
| 0 1.4m 0.6m |
|0.5T 0 0 |


=3.5 (0.3 j + 0.7 k)
= 1.05 j + 2.45 k

so that's my attempt... but is totally wrong, my answer is not near any of the options. Does anyone knows what am I doing wrong??

Thank you!
 

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Does 1.2 sin (30) give you the y or the z component of the length?

Also, the direction of the length vector should be in the direction of the current. So, think about the signs of the y and z components of the length vector as well as the sign of the x-component of B.
 
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the Y component i think... not?

got you on the direction! I missed that
 
Curious314 said:
the Y component i think... not?

Yes, the y-component. But did you then substitute it into the correct location in the determinant?
 
Thank you sooo much! :d
 
Hello! So this is my lastest attemp:

Since I is a current in opposite direction, is -I (thanks Tsny!)

i j k
0 -0.6 -1.03
0.5T 0 0So:

-3.5[(-0.6*0)-(-1.03*0)]i-[(0*0)-(0.5*-1.03)]j+[(0*0)-(-0.6*0.5)]k

=-1.80j-1.05k

This are the numbers, but not the signs... What am I missing?

Thanks!
 
What is the sign of the x-component of B?
 
Curious314 said:
Hello! So this is my lastest attemp:

Since I is a current in opposite direction, is -I (thanks Tsny!)

i j k
0 -0.6 -1.03
0.5T 0 0


So:

-3.5[(-0.6*0)-(-1.03*0)]i-[(0*0)-(0.5*-1.03)]j+[(0*0)-(-0.6*0.5)]k

=-1.80j-1.05k

This are the numbers, but not the signs... What am I missing?

Thanks!

If the direction vector for the length of the wire is already being reckoned correctly (with the negative signs on the correct components), the current can just be taken as positive. You should use +3.5A rather than -3.5A.

Also, your magnetic field strength should be -0.5i, since it's going in the negative x-direction (pointing directly out of the page).

I would suggest also that you save the simplification till the last step - otherwise you get rounding errors with the \sqrt{3}, for example.

You can check if your answer is in the correct orientation by using the right-hand rule.

BTW, interesting username. :biggrin:
 

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