AC or DC: Which is the Right Mode for Oscilloscope Output in Comparators?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the appropriate mode (AC or DC) to set an oscilloscope when analyzing outputs from comparators in practical electronics experiments. Participants explore the implications of each mode and the types of signals expected from comparators.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about whether to use AC or DC coupling on an oscilloscope during comparator experiments, seeking clarity on the reasoning behind the choice.
  • Another participant explains that DC coupling allows all signal components through, while AC coupling removes the DC offset, making it easier to visualize small AC signals superimposed on larger DC levels.
  • A participant expresses confusion about their teacher's recommendation to use DC coupling despite observing a shifted level in AC mode, questioning the correctness of the results obtained in each mode.
  • Some participants suggest that DC coupling is generally preferred for oscilloscope measurements, except in specific cases where AC coupling is necessary due to significant DC offsets.
  • Examples are provided where AC coupling is deemed necessary, particularly when analyzing small signals riding on large DC offsets, indicating that the choice of coupling mode can depend on the specific signal characteristics.
  • There is a discussion about the expected output when using DC mode, with one participant noting that it may show a flat line at a certain voltage level, complicating the visibility of the AC component unless adjustments are made.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate coupling mode for oscilloscope use in comparator experiments. While some advocate for DC coupling as the standard, others highlight scenarios where AC coupling is necessary, indicating that no consensus exists on a singular correct approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific signal conditions, such as the presence of DC offsets and the nature of the signals produced by comparators, which influence the choice of coupling mode. There are unresolved questions about the implications of using each mode in different scenarios.

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This discussion may be useful for electronics engineering students, educators, and practitioners interested in oscilloscope usage and signal analysis in practical applications.

shayaan_musta
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Hello experts!

I am the student of electronics engineering.
I have an question related to AC and DC button in Oscilloscope.
When I am performing practical then I don't know whether I switch oscilloscope output to DC or AC mode. When I ask to teacher they don't give me any satisfaction for my question.

Let say I am performing a practical of comparators. So should I switch oscilloscope output AC or DC? and why?

Thanks in advance.
 
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That sets how the signal is coupled to the rest of the oscilloscope.

DC coupling will let all of the signal through, and display the exact value of the voltage on the screen.

AC coupling sends the signal through a high pas filter first to remove any DC component.

One application for AC coupling is if you have a small AC signal riding on top of a large DC offset. On DC coupling, it won't be easy to display since turning the V/DIV knob will send the signal off the screen. AC coupling removed the DC offet and centers the AC waveform around 0 so it's easier to see.

DC coupling would have to be used for slow changing signal.

Does that help.
 
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Thanks for answer.

But my question is still there. First I want to know in which mode we set oscilloscope during performing the practical of comparators. AC or DC. And why? How did you know that set an oscilloscope either in AC or DC for that particular practical? What is the basic key to this?
 
What type of signals would you say a Comparator produces?
What is it that you are expecting to see on the scope (AC or DC signals)?

Based on your answers to those questions, and everything J-N said, which type of setting do you think is appropriate?
 
@mdjensen22

We get an AC signal with high gain that is a saturated output on oscilloscope. And If it according to our setting then why my teacher said to switch it to DC rather than AC?
While in AC mode I was receiving a shifted level. But I know not both of them are correct results but just one is correct AC or DC. Why it is DC so?
 
shayaan_musta said:
@mdjensen22

We get an AC signal with high gain that is a saturated output on oscilloscope. And If it according to our setting then why my teacher said to switch it to DC rather than AC?
While in AC mode I was receiving a shifted level. But I know not both of them are correct results but just one is correct AC or DC. Why it is DC so?

You will almost always use DC coupling for your oscilloscope measurements. The case that Jiggy-Ninja mentioned is one of the rare times you would switch to AC coupling.

Just keep your oscilloscope on DC coupling for all of your lab work, and you should be fine.

Here is a set of oscilloscope tutorials from Tektronix:

http://www.tek.com/learning/oscilloscope-tutorial/?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=ppc,covtekggl110000000001990s

You have to register to download them, but they are free, and very useful.
 
As a specific example, I am using an FSK generator with a really small output; 100mV peak to peak. That's riding on top of a 4.5V DC offset from the chip itself. If I want to analyze that signal, DC coupling is impossible since the offset is 40 times greater than the signal. AC coupling is necessary.
 
Jiggy-Ninja said:
As a specific example, I am using an FSK generator with a really small output; 100mV peak to peak. That's riding on top of a 4.5V DC offset from the chip itself. If I want to analyze that signal, DC coupling is impossible since the offset is 40 times greater than the signal. AC coupling is necessary.

So as this is the case. If I use DC mode then what signal should I get? is this shifted? If so then how much?
 
shayaan_musta said:
So as this is the case. If I use DC mode then what signal should I get? is this shifted? If so then how much?

If you use DC mode on Jiggy-Ninja's signal, you will see a flat line at 4.5V, with maybe a little bit of fuzz on it (the AC part of the signal). You will not be able to see the character of the AC signal unless you can zoom in and adjust your DC offset to keep the signal centered on the screen, or unless you switch to AC coupling and zoom in.
 
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OK. Now I have got my answer. Thanks for all of you friends. God bless you.
 

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