Accelerating rocket w/ changing mass *need to finish tonight*

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The discussion revolves around deriving the upward velocity formula for a rocket with changing mass, given specific parameters like initial mass, thrust force, and fuel burn rate. The key formula to prove is vy = uex * ln[M0 / M(t)] - g * t, where M(t) is the mass at time t. Participants suggest starting with Newton's second law to find acceleration, leading to the equation a = (Fth / (M0 - R * t)) - g. There is uncertainty about integrating this equation to find velocity, with requests for guidance on calculus techniques. Overall, the thread highlights the need for clarity on integrating time-dependent mass in rocket motion equations.
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Prove that the upward velocity of a rocket of initial mass M0, which is propelled by fuel burning at a rate of R kg/s, is given by vy = uex * ln[M0 / M(t) ] - g * t. uex is the speed of the exhaust gas relative to the rocket and M0 is the initial mass (rocket + fuel).

Also find the initial velocity and acceleration and velocity at time = 180s.

M0 = 2.12E6 kg
Fth = 2.32E7 N (Force of thrust)
R = 4.6E3

M(t) = M0 - R * t
Fth = -R * uex

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Well it seems like I can get all the required values I need, but I still need to prove the given formula, and I'm not really sure where to start and I'm hoping for some tips.EDIT: Would finding the rate of changing for the rocket's acceleration be a start? (ie x m*s^3)
 
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No one can provide any help? I desperately need some.
 
Proximity said:
EDIT: Would finding the rate of changing for the rocket's acceleration be a start? (ie x m*s^3)
Finding the rocket's acceleration would be a good start.
 
So applying Newton's second law I ended up with:

(Fth / m) - g = a

But m is dependent on time so that becomes:

[Fth / (m0 - R * t)] - g = a

Do I then have to integrate that somehow?
 
Anyone?
 
Proximity said:
So applying Newton's second law I ended up with:

(Fth / m) - g = a

But m is dependent on time so that becomes:

[Fth / (m0 - R * t)] - g = a

Do I then have to integrate that somehow?

How hard is that to integrate?
 
It's been a while since I've taken calculus, I'm not really sure how to.
 
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