Acceleration of golf club hitting a ball

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the physics of a golf club hitting a ball, specifically focusing on the acceleration of the club head during and after impact. Participants explore concepts related to motion, energy transfer, and the mechanics of a golf swing.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant references Ben Hogan's claim that continued acceleration of the club head after striking the ball leads to a straighter shot, seeking clarification on this concept.
  • Another participant suggests that smooth, continuous acceleration and coordinated movements contribute to better impact results, noting that the acceleration of the club head is not constant due to various body rotations.
  • There is mention of the elastic properties of the club shaft, with uncertainty about how this relates to the timing of maximum club head speed and impact dynamics.
  • A participant highlights that maximum club head speed occurs right after impact, questioning the implications of acceleration changes during contact and suggesting that longer contact time could enhance momentum transfer to the ball.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of Hogan's statement and the mechanics of the golf swing, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the specifics of acceleration and impact dynamics.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on interpretations of slow-motion footage and lab conditions, which may not fully capture real-world execution. There is also uncertainty regarding the relationship between club head speed, acceleration, and the timing of impact.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the physics of sports, golf mechanics, and the interplay between motion and energy transfer may find this discussion relevant.

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The great Ben Hogan said he learned from a physics book when he was on the PGA Tour that if the golf club head is still accelerating AFTER it has struck the golf ball, the result is a straighter shot on line to the target. I can't find any examples of what he is talking about in the physics books I've looked at...any help is appreciated...I'm not a physics major. Thank you, John
 
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It is tough to know exactly what he is referring to, but there are a couple of possibilities:
1. The way we coordinate our movements affects the timing and alignment of the impact (duh, but I'll explain...). A smooth, continuous motion is simpler to achieve than one that changes over time. As a result, smooth, continuous acceleration that you stop only after you've made contact produces the best results. To be clear, though, the acceleration of the club-head isn't exactly constant, it is the various rotations (hips, shoulders, wrists) that should each be smooth - but they combine to produce a more complicated pattern of motion.

2. The shaft of the club is elastic. As you swing, it stores and releases elastic energy, which also accelerates the club. However, it was my understanding that you want the club back at straight (moving through straight) when you make contact, and as it passes straight, the additional force from the elasticity drops to zero. So I'm not certain how that could relate.
 
Russ, many thanks, a Golf pro who played on the LPGA Tour that Hogan mentored said he passed it along to her and also in one of his golf books he stated that maximum club head speed occurs right after impact, not during impact...I know that when the club head hits the ball there is, I think, some slowing down of the acceleration, or at least that's what I recall reading somewhere...that's why I'm trying to get some scientific clarification, etc...again, Thanks, John
 
Jgolf said:
maximum club head speed occurs right after impact, not during impact
There is lots of slow motion footage of the impact on the net, that could be used to check this. But it's usually under lab conditions, so it might not be executed as suggested by Hogan.

From physics standpoint: If the head doesn't slow down at impact, the contact time is longer so more momentum is transferred to the ball.
 
A.T. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out...John
 

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