Acceleration with two wooden crates

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of a top crate resting on a bottom crate, with specific masses and friction coefficients provided. The tension in the rope pulling the lower crate is set at 1122 N, leading to a net force calculation that initially suggests a high acceleration for the upper crate. However, it is clarified that the acceleration of the upper crate is determined by the kinetic friction force acting on it, which is calculated using the coefficient of kinetic friction. The correct approach indicates that the maximum acceleration of the upper crate, when sliding, equals g multiplied by the kinetic friction coefficient. The final answer is confirmed to be accurate after applying the appropriate calculations.
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1. Homework Statement

Two wooden crates rest on top of one another. The smaller top crate has a mass of m1 = 24.0 kg and the larger bottom crate has a mass of m2 = 86.0 kg. There is NO friction between the crate and the floor, but the coefficient of static friction between the two crates is μs = 0.8 and the coefficient of kinetic friction between the two crates is μk = 0.63. A massless rope is attached to the lower crate to pull it horizontally to the right (which should be considered the positive direction for this problem).

The tension is increased in the rope to 1122.0 N causing the boxes to accelerate faster and the top box to begin sliding. What is the acceleration of the upper crate?

2. Homework Equations

Fg = Fn = m*g
Fk = μk * Fn
Fnet,x = T-Fk

3. The Attempt at a Solution

Fg = 24*9.8 = 235.2N
Fn = 235.2N
Fk = .63 * Fn = 148.176N
T = 1122N
Fnet,x = 1122-148.176 = 973.824N
acceleration in x-direction = 973.824/24 = 40.576 m/s^2 <- seems to be incorrect
 
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1. Homework Statement

Two wooden crates rest on top of one another. The smaller top crate has a mass of m1 = 24.0 kg and the larger bottom crate has a mass of m2 = 86.0 kg. There is NO friction between the crate and the floor, but the coefficient of static friction between the two crates is μs = 0.8 and the coefficient of kinetic friction between the two crates is μk = 0.63. A massless rope is attached to the lower crate to pull it horizontally to the right (which should be considered the positive direction for this problem).

The tension is increased in the rope to 1122.0 N causing the boxes to accelerate faster and the top box to begin sliding. What is the acceleration of the upper crate?

2. Homework Equations

Fg = Fn = m*g
Fk = μk * Fn
Fnet,x = T-Fk

3. The Attempt at a Solution

Fg = 24*9.8 = 235.2N
Fn = 235.2N
Fk = .63 * Fn = 148.176N
T = 1122N
Fnet,x = 1122-148.176 = 973.824N
acceleration in x-direction = 973.824/24 = 40.576 m/s^2 <- seems to be incorrect
You are asked for the acceleration of the upper crate. This is the acceleration of the lower (86 kg) crate. Also, express your answer in proper significant figures.

AM
 
Andrew Mason said:
You are asked for the acceleration of the upper crate. This is the acceleration of the lower (86 kg) crate. Also, express your answer in proper significant figures.

AM

So how do you suggest that you find the upper crate's acceleration?
 
To me the only force applied to the top block is just mgμk since it is sliding.
Thus maximum acceleration equal to gμk.

For no sliding, maximum acceleration is gμs.
 
azizlwl said:
To me the only force applied to the top block is just mgμk since it is sliding.
Thus maximum acceleration equal to gμk.

For no sliding, maximum acceleration is gμs.

I just typed it in, & it's correct. Thanks for your help!
 
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