Acid/Base Weight Change: Melting Point Increase?

  • Thread starter Thread starter nemzy
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Acids Bases
AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on the behavior of acid and base samples over time, specifically whether acids lose weight and bases gain weight when left to sit. It notes that acids like HCl may lose weight due to evaporation, while bases can absorb moisture from the air, leading to weight gain. The conversation highlights the relationship between weight changes and melting points, suggesting that increased weight from water absorption could lead to higher melting points due to enhanced intermolecular forces. The concept of molality is also introduced, clarifying that it refers to the number of moles of solute per kilogram of solvent, which is relevant when discussing changes in physical properties of solutions. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the specific conditions and compounds involved in these weight changes.
nemzy
Messages
124
Reaction score
0
Suppose u let an acid sample sit for a week, does it lose weight after a period of time? and a base sample gain weight after a period of time? why is like this? and when a sample gains weight, the melthing point rises. is it because of the increased intermolecular forces? thanks
 
Chemistry news on Phys.org
very strange - never heard of this
 
Your logic is interesting. You should better consider equilibrium phenomenon; and Lavosier's very principle. An isolated system neither loses nor gains weight.

Your query reminds me of water absorption capacity of bases; as hydroxide ions are very powerful bases, hydrogen bonding may be excessive to absorb large quantities of water. Gaseous-originated mineral acids like HCl may lose weight as some of HCl evaporates away.
 
nemzy said:
Suppose u let an acid sample sit for a week, does it lose weight after a period of time? and a base sample gain weight after a period of time? why is like this? and when a sample gains weight, the melthing point rises. is it because of the increased intermolecular forces? thanks

I'd suspect the sample is either evaporating or absorbing moisture from the air.
 
when a sample gains weight, the melthing point rises
ARE you saying When Molecular mass increases(similiar compounds)melting point rises?
{ethane,ethane,propane }

In case of absorption/evaporation of water,there is a change in Freezing point/Boiling point in non ideal solutions which is proportional to molality.
 
what is molality
 
Weight gain? Sure, picking up water --- and, carbon dioxide. The second item is the melting point booster.
 
This is a lot of speculation about a "sample" we know very little about. Questions: What compound is it? Under what conditions have it been stored? Any further info would help. As for the question about molality, it's moles of solute per kg of solvent, of a solution.
 
Molality:no of moles of solute /kg of solution.
 
  • #10
poolwin2001 said:
Molality:no of moles of solute /kg of solution.
Nope, it's moles solute/kg solvent. See: http://www.chemistry-dictionary.com/Molality
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Back
Top