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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the appropriate method to power a 12V DC lift designed for vehicles when used in a residential setting. Participants explore various options, including power supply units and battery solutions, while addressing concerns about safety and compatibility.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires whether they can directly plug the lift into a wall outlet and what equipment would be necessary for this setup.
  • Another participant suggests using a mains power supply unit that converts AC to 12V DC, asking for the current or power specifications of the lift.
  • It is noted that the installation instructions require a 20 amp circuit breaker, implying the need for a robust power supply.
  • Some participants mention specific power supply models, discussing their suitability and availability, while also noting the potential cost.
  • One participant proposes using a car or motorcycle battery connected to a trickle charger as a cheaper alternative, while another agrees this was suggested by their builder.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of using batteries, including the risks of short circuits and the need for proper fusing.
  • Another participant argues that while batteries can last a long time, power supply units may offer greater safety features.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best method to power the lift, with some favoring power supply units and others advocating for battery solutions. Safety concerns regarding both options are also discussed, indicating no consensus on a preferred approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific power supply models and their characteristics, but there is no agreement on the best choice. The discussion includes assumptions about the compatibility of devices and the safety measures necessary for each option.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals looking to adapt vehicle equipment for home use, particularly those interested in electrical engineering or DIY projects involving power supply solutions.

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Hello. I'm new here. I just discovered this fora thru Google and was hoping someone could help me. It will be obvious in a second that I'm not an engineer, so please pardon the silly/simple question:

I have a device that was built for a car/RV that I want to run at home. (It's a http://www.burractuators.com/lifts/pdf/HandyLift_Sheet.pdf" that normally goes onto an RV, but I installed it on my house so my father-in-law can get up the 4 steps into my house.) The lift runs on DC 12V. I would prefer not to power it via a car battery, but would like to "just plug it in."

Can I "just plug it in?"
If yes, what do I need?
If no, why not?
 
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You need a mains power supply unit AC to 12 DC with sufficient output for the job.

Do you know the current required in Amps or the power in Watts? Is there a plate on the device with this imformation?
 
Pumblechook said:
Do you know the current required in Amps or the power in Watts? Is there a plate on the device with this imformation?
The installation instructions call for a 20 amp circuit breaker.
 
That requires a fairly hefty Power Supply Unit then..20 Amps at 12 Volts (running current will be a lower if the breaker is 20 A). The problem will be having the right connector to supply the 12 DC to the lift.

Tend not to be cheap items...

http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/Kenwood_Mains_Power_Supplies.html
 
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PCS-125 is cheaper . 25 Amps (max) 4 - 15 volts and has terminals.

PTS-124 is maybe better for your application.


http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/Microset_Mains_Power_Supplies.html

Available in many countries if you are not in Britain.

Watson make a few suitable PSUs..

http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/Watson_Mains_Power_Supplies.html

Watson W-25SM looks OK. £80 in the UK.

These are used to run professional and amateur radio euipment. If you have a ham radio shop near you they may have something adn will advise. Might help with interconnection problem. They tend to be knowledgeable people not just shop assistants.

Where are you?
 
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I'm in the US, in NJ.

Would my builder's electrician know what to do with either of these PSUs?
Do I assume it's AC in one end and DC out the other (or vice versa depending on how you look at things).
 
The other (cheaper) solution is to use a car or (smaller) motorcycle battery, but keep the battery permanently connected to a standard automotive trickle charger that costs $20 from any auto parts store. You can put the battery and charger in a box and make it look nice, if that's a concern.

And yes, the Watson PSUs plug into the wall just like any other household device.

- Warren
 
chroot said:
The other (cheaper) solution is to use a car or (smaller) motorcycle battery, but keep the battery permanently connected to a standard automotive trickle charger that costs $20 from any auto parts store. You can put the battery and charger in a box and make it look nice, if that's a concern.
That's what my builder suggested :approve:
 
I think motorcycle batteries are expensive and like car batteries have a finite life. High current batteries can be dangerous.. Terminals must be covered and you must have suitable fusing or a circuit breaker. A short circuit can be like an arc welder..blinding flash.,,,and thin wires can burn up.

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In this application, the battery will last essentially forever. Dozens of years, if not more. The power supply units you suggest are safer, though, since they will fold back in the case of a short.

- Warren
 

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