Advice for Successful REU in Materials Science

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around advice for succeeding in a Research Experiences for Undergraduates (REU) program in materials science. Participants share insights on work habits, communication, project management, and personal development within the context of a summer research experience.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest showing up early, leaving late, and working hard to make a good impression.
  • Networking with advisors and colleagues is emphasized, with a recommendation to solicit advice judiciously.
  • Clear communication of project goals to both laypeople and scientists in and out of the field is advised.
  • Maintaining a detailed log of work and background reading is proposed as beneficial for referencing and tracking progress.
  • Establishing clear short-term and long-term goals with supervisors is highlighted as crucial for project success.
  • Participants stress the importance of asking for help when necessary, but also caution against over-reliance on advisors, particularly for upperclassmen.
  • Some participants mention the value of exploring equipment and methods independently for personal skill development.
  • Taking advantage of additional learning opportunities, such as expedited classes, is recommended.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of hard work, communication, and networking. However, there are varying opinions on the balance between seeking help and developing independence in research skills.

Contextual Notes

Some advice is contingent on individual experiences and may depend on specific REU settings or advisor styles. The effectiveness of certain strategies may vary based on personal learning preferences and project requirements.

Who May Find This Useful

Undergraduate students preparing for or currently participating in REU programs, particularly in materials science or related fields.

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Hello again PF!

I was accepted to an REU for this summer. I was just hoping to get some nuggets of good advice for what to do to be successful. Only thing I keep telling myself is to work HARD so I can make a good impression and hopefully contribute to a successful project.

Any good advice from experienced folks out there?

Thanks!

P.S. - the REU has to do with materials science, if that helps anyone to give advice.
 
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Show up early, leave late, work hard, ask lots of (but not too many) questions and network. By network, I mean get to know your advisor, your advisor's colleagues and even people down the hallway. Solicit advice (but not too much).
 
Awesome, thank you so much.
 
In no particular order...
  • Learn to explain your project clearly and succinctly to lay people.
  • Learn to explain your project clearly and succinctly to other scientists outside your field.
  • Learn to explain your project clearly and succinctly to other scientists inside your field.
  • Keep a detailed log of your work, even the tangential stuff.
  • Do a lot of background reading and keep track of the papers you read so you can reference them later if you need to.
  • Write up your results as if you're going to put them in a paper.
  • Establish clear project goals with your supervisor. Understand what you hope to accomplish by the end of the project.
  • Establish clear short-term goals. What does your supervisor want you to deliver for your next meeting?
  • Ask for help when you don't understand something.
  • Minimize time on personal stuff. You don't want your supervisor to catch you on Facebook.
  • Don't be afraid to spend time exploring the details of how a program or piece of equipment works. One of your personal primary goals should be your own skill development.
 
Thank you! I definitely like those ideas, especially the log one.
 
Regarding asking for help, only do it if it's not something that you can look up yourself (even if on your personal time). Especially if you're an upperclassman, an REU is an opportunity to show that you're capable of graduate-level work, which means not being too dependent on your adviser. This was a hard lesson for me since I was used to a very hands-on adviser, but during my REU I only met with my supervising professor three or four times throughout the summer - during the first few weeks I spent a lot of time spinning my wheels because I didn't know how to study things for myself (basically if it required more than a Google search or looking something up in a textbook, I was screwed).

Of course, there are exceptions - some questions take a nearby grad student 5 seconds to answer but 5 hours for you to figure out by looking up, or your project might involve a method developed by someone else in the group, etc. etc. but chances are you'll be sharing workspaces with undergrads or grad students, so don't be afraid to ask them!

Also, when I did an REU I had the opportunity to take an expedited version of some classes through the department (free of charge). Definitely take advantage of this!
 

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