This is a complete non-sequitur. There can be as much thrust as you like when the plane happens to be stationary. You are totally confusing cause and effect. The thrust is not 'because of' airflow so your "therefore" is the wrong word.yeah thats where my question basically lies is if the plane is not moving there is not as much air flowing over the wings therefor less thrust is created so
You mean lift? "Thrust is conventionally taken to be the force that the engines produce. The only way you can get lift with aircraft not moving through the air is to use vectored thrust. VT has not been mentioned so far in the thread so it would be better not to move the goalposts by introducing it.yeah thats where my question basically lies is if the plane is not moving there is not as much air flowing over the wings therefor less thrust is created so I was wondering if the plane could still take off even though it's wings are not gliding through the air creating that downward thrust
I think it's time for you to re-read this thread and to see how so many of your posts have not addressed the other comments. What do you actually want out of this exercise? You are not going to change the theory. Why not learn the theory and then you will be able to answer the questions yourself.