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The discussion revolves around solving the polynomial equation 2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6 = 0 using a graphing calculator. Participants clarify that finding the zeros of the function is equivalent to solving for x in this context. Instructions are provided for using a TI-84 calculator to graph the function and locate its x-intercepts, which represent the solutions to the equation. There is also a debate about the terminology, distinguishing between "zeros" of a function and "roots" of an equation. Ultimately, the original poster finds clarity in the problem's wording and the method to solve it.
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Hey guys I was given an assignment as part of my intro to calculus course, but I am not sure what the question is actually asking me to find or solve

Homework Statement


use a graphics calculator to solve the following equation
2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6 = 0

am I looking for the zeros of the function or am I trying to solve for x? and how do I use a graphics calculator to solve this sort of equation? I can solve for x algebraically and I can use my calculator to find the x-intercepts but I don't know how to solve this problem with my calculator.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know the zero's of the functions are y= 0 when x= -2, 0.5 and 3 but I don't think this is what the question is asking for??
 
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5ymmetrica1 said:
Hey guys I was given an assignment as part of my intro to calculus course, but I am not sure what the question is actually asking me to find or solve

Homework Statement


use a graphics calculator to solve the following equation
2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6 = 0

am I looking for the zeros of the function or am I trying to solve for x? and how do I use a graphics calculator to solve this sort of equation? I can solve for x algebraically and I can use my calculator to find the x-intercepts but I don't know how to solve this problem with my calculator.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know the zero's of the functions are y= 0 when x= -2, 0.5 and 3 but I don't think this is what the question is asking for??

Well when you have a question like this you will have to factor it out and see where it equals zero ( which values of x make it equal to zero).
 
ok so factorising its zeros I would get
(x-3)(2x-1)(x+2)
 
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or is it...

(x-3)(2x-1)(x+2)
---> (2x2 - x - 6x + 3)(x + 2)
---> (2x3 - 7x - 3)(x + 2)
---> 2x3 + 4x2 - 7x2 - 14x + 3x + 6 = 0

THEN by collecting like terms I get the original equation...

---> 2x3 - 3x2 - 11x + 6 = 0

so this equation has roots of x= -2, 0.5 and 3
 
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5ymmetrica1 said:
use a graphics calculator to solve the following equation
2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6 = 0

am I looking for the zeros of the function or am I trying to solve for x?
They mean the same thing.

5ymmetrica1 said:
and how do I use a graphics calculator to solve this sort of equation?
Assuming you have a TI-84, graph the function, change the window so that all x-intercepts are shown, and hit [2ND]->[TRACE]->Zero. Provide the left and right bounds, and you'll get the zero. Repeat the process as needed until you get all zeros. Check the calculator's manual.
 
5ymmetrica1 said:
or is it...

(x-3)(2x-1)(x+2)
---> (2x2 - x - 6x + 3)(x + 2)
---> (2x3 - 7x - 3)(x + 2)
---> 2x3 + 4x2 - 7x2 - 14x + 3x + 6 = 0
You started with an equation, so each subsequent step should involve an equation. The two sides of an equation are separated by =, not --->.
5ymmetrica1 said:
THEN by collecting like terms I get the original equation...

---> 2x3 - 3x2 - 11x + 6 = 0

so this equation has roots of x= -2, 0.5 and 3
 
5ymmetrica1 said:
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Homework Statement


use a graphics calculator to solve the following equation
2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6 = 0

am I looking for the zeros of the function or am I trying to solve for x? and how do I use a graphics calculator to solve this sort of equation? I can solve for x algebraically and I can use my calculator to find the x-intercepts but I don't know how to solve this problem with my calculator.
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This is essentially what eumyang said, but I'll say it again:

Solving the equation, \displaystyle \ \ 2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6 = 0 \,, \ for x,

is equivalent to finding the zeros of the function defined by \displaystyle \ \ f(x) = 2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6 \ .
 
SammyS said:
This is essentially what eumyang said, but I'll say it again:

Solving the equation, \displaystyle \ \ 2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6 = 0 \,, \ for x,

is equivalent to finding the zeros of the function defined by \displaystyle \ \ f(x) = 2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6 \ .

Which is the same as finding the *roots* of ##2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6.##
 
And all this, I like to reflect, all polynomial equation solving, a lot of algebra, what fraction would you say Ray Vickson or anyone, of algebra, of math, of useful math? - is down to the peculiar property of 0, the only number that remains itself when multiplied by every other number.
 
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thanks for the replies everyone, as expected it was as simple as using my TI to find the zeros as eumyang mentioned which I know how to do. It was the wording of the problem which confused me as I was not sure what I was "solving"

Usually problems of this kind that I have encountered previously are worded something along the lines of "find the zeros of the function y = ...... or f(x) = ........"

and mark44 I know that each side of the equation is separated by =, the ---> was simply an quick easy way of saying "goes to", it's bad mathematical notation I know so in future Ill be sure to use the correct symbols when posting on the forum :)

thanks again everyone
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Ray Vickson said:
Which is the same as finding the *roots* of ##2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6.##
No, technically, it is not. Functions, including polynomials, have "zeros" but only equations have "roots".
 
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